Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:43:52 -0700
Reply-To: "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@SCHWENK-LAW.COM>
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From: "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@SCHWENK-LAW.COM>
Subject: Re: Napa hoses for SYNCRO
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Joel Shortlidge wrote:
> I need to know where that diagram of the cooling hoses for the syncro
> is!!! It has the Napa to VW conversion correct???
>
> Joel
> Replacing distribution unit!
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Jim Davis ' Generic Collant Hose List:
<< Don't everybody forget Jim Davis's/syncrohead excellent post (last
year?)
detailing how to get all these hoses cheap by using off the shelf hoses in
the local auto parts store originally meant for other cars. >>
Here it is again:
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While replacing the engine in my 87 Syncro, I thought it would be a good
idea
to replace the hoses in the engine compartment. A couple had been
replaced in the last couple years, so I didn't plan on replacing them
again.
Note that more than you might suspect are Syncro specific hoses.
Here's what I replaced & the prices from the FLVWD & FLAPS:
251-121-102 42.90
Left/front port on plastic coolant manifold to right radiator pipe.
Used a (D)70684 that cost $6.99.
251-121-072 37.00
Bottom/right of thermostat housing to lower crossover pipe.
Used part of a (E)71228 that cost $15.99
Other part of (E)71228 used for 251-121-103
251-121-073 42.90
Top of thermostat housing to upper crossover pipe.
Used a 71315 that cost $5.99
251-121-103 42.90
Lower crossover tube to rear/left port on plastic coolant manifold.
Used part of a (E)71228 that cost $15.99
Other part of (E)71228 used for 251-121-072
251-121-072-A 42.90
Right/rear port on plastic coolant manifold to port on front of right head.
Used a 70826 that cost $6.49
025-121-073-H 22.10
Left side of thermostat housing to big pipe on left side of engine.
Used a (B)70541 that cost $7.49
025-121-058-H 16.00
Upper port on primary coolant reservoir to coolant tube that runs around
the
left perimeter of the engine compartment.
Used a 80400 that cost $5.93
025-121-058-D $15.60
Oil cooler tube to tube leading to thermostat housing.
No replacement looked for.
025-121-058-J $13.05
Water pump to metal tube.
No replacement looked for.
025-121-058-G $15.60
Metal tube from water pump to oil cooler.
No replacement looked for.
025-121-058-E $11.65
Small metal tube above left head to port on rear of thermostat housing.
No suitable replacement found.
025-121-108-H $21.90
Lower port on primary coolant reservoir to metal tube on rear of left head.
No suitable replacement found
251-121-062 $49.35
Upper crossover tube to left radiator pipe.
No suitable replacement found
N-901-287-03 $5.45
>From flange on right head to tube under crankshaft pulley.
No replacement looked for.
All of the replacement hoses were made in the USA by Road King (although
the
application guide doesn't have any brand identification on it). I bought
them at TRAK Auto. I think that Pep Boys carries the same brand.
Since the application guide at the FLAPS didn't list anything for Vanagons,
I
found these replacement hoses by holding the old hose in my hand and
walking
up & down the hose aisle looking for hoses or parts of hoses that were
close.
I only used part of each of the replacement hoses & just cut off the parts
that didn't match the VW hose.
Some of the lower priced hoses, I didn't bother searching for a FLAPS
replacement for, partly because I was lazy & partly because I was running
out
of time. I suspect I could have saved quite a bit of money on those too.
Total VW price of hoses that I found a replacement for: $246.70
Total FLAPS price of replacement hoses: $48.88 (not much more than 1 VW
hose)
Price savings: $197.82
VW originals cost over 400% more!
Total cost of hoses purchased at VW & FLAPS: $379.30
Total cost would have been $577.12 if I'd bought all VW hoses!
$577 + one or two hose that I did not replace would easily be over $600. I
bet you didn't know that you had over $600. worth of hoses in your engine
compartment, did you? And I didn't even replace the radiator hoses up front
or the hoses to the heaters......yet.
Those of you without Syncros might look into your engine compartment and
say
"crossover tubes! - what is he talking about?". These are Syncro specific
beacuse the Syncro's gas tank placement gets in the way of the "normal"
hose
routing. In a Syncro the two radiator pipes have to come up to the engine
compartment on the right side and the "crossover" through metal pipes to
get
to the thermostat area.
I'll definitely post a message to the list if I have any problems with
these
hoses, but I suspect that it will be years away if I do.
Jim Davis
87 GL Syncro (Hans)
88 GL Wolfsburg (Heidi)
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