Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:15:54 -0700
Reply-To:     Brent Christensen <bpchristensen@MINDSPRING.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Brent Christensen <bpchristensen@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: STOP!!!   Re: Shoddy German Workmanship / Racism (No VW
              content)

Hey folks - let's end this one now while we're ahead.  While it is a
sensitive topic, and deserves further discussion, I am sure, let's not do it
here!

I just don;t want to have to spend the next week deleting messages like the
g*n thread that was rampant a few weeks ago...

My $0.02...

Brent Christensen
'89 Syncro Westy "Klaus"
'91 Taurus SHO (For Sale)
'95 Cherokee Sport


----- Original Message -----
From: Cooper, Jonathan R. <cooper@MBQ.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Shoddy German Workmanship / Racism (No VW content)


> Hear Hear! Let us hope that Arkaday is not glorifying a mass murderer
> and the modern father of ethnic cleansing (as shaking off the shackles
> of Versailles)and that he is not trying to rewrite history and deny that
> the holocost didn't happen. His comments otherwise would tend to
> demonstrate that he is saner and more intelligent than that
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Bus Depot [mailto:ron@NETCARRIER.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:26 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Shoddy German Workmanship / Racism (No VW content)
>
>
> Arkady Mervis wrote:
>
> > Germany became a nation of selfmasochists ready to apologize for what
> happened
> > and mostly of what never happened at all, and kiss the ass of any
> jerk.
> > The young generation still pays billions  to millions of "survivors"
> and
> > will never follow the examle of Adolf Hitler when he threw away
> > the Versailles Treaty shackles.
> > The workforce is demoralized, drinking in workplace is rampant,
> workers
> > speak all kind of languages....
> > The fathers - the bearers of traditions and soldiers, the
> grandfathers,
> > all lay in graves disgraced and hated by brainwashed sons and
> daughters...
> > While German carries his groceries in a small bag -
> > the Turks push carts. The guests shit and piss in the streets.
>
>
>
> As a decendant of Austrian Jews, some of whom died horribly in
> concentration
> camps that "never happened at all" in the hands of some of those
> "bearers of
> traditions and soldiers,"  and have been replaced in the factories by
> foreigners who "shit and piss in the streets", I'd suggest that there is
> another side to this issue.  Comments like these fill me with
> deeply-felt
> anger, great sadness, and fear. There is an active KKK group in this
> part of
> Pennsylvania that hands out brochures that read almost *exactly* like
> the
> above paragraph. The group has a youth contingent in the local public
> schools.  Some things never change.  There are so many things I want to
> say.
> But this is a list about Vanagons and I will hold my tongue.  I just
> couldn't let something like this go without saying anything at all.
>
> - Ron Salmon
>  The Bus Depot
>  http://www.busdepot.com
>
>
> p.s.  To learn more about combatting racial hatred in America, see
> http://www.splcenter.org.  The Bus Depot, Inc. donates a portion of its
> profits to this organization anually.