Date:         Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:30:24 -0800
Reply-To:     Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
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From:         Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!
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In my experience most rules just create more problems. So I suggest we keep
it simple....
1.    Make Saturday the Vendor Specials day.
2.    The other 6 days Vendors may post freely to answer specific questions
that have been posted to the list about products. Vendors are encouraged to
include more education than just price and availability.
3.    If you feel the need to complain, do it nicely by pmail to the
offender. If they continue, then file a complaint with the list
administrator. (The list administrator may elect to have complaints handled
by a committee.) Don't post complaints to the list.
Bill
90 Westy Syncro
Lake Tahoe
-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@PANGEA.CA>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!


>Dear Readers:
>
>I suggest the following solutions for your consideration:
>
>1.    Commercial enterprises must incorporate the word "advert" as the very
>first word in the subject line of each ad;
>
>2.    Seek cooperation from commercial advertisers to not make multiple
>promotions on the same day, and to group all their promotions into one
>message per enterprise per day;
>
>3.    Do not discourage commercial enterprises from responding with answers
>to Listee's postings where that response also carries technical information
>that the individual list poster may find useful, or is generally
informative
>to the other potential readers, even if the commercial enterprise also may
>benefit;
>
>4. Listee's are to use the list administrator's mailbox as a destination
for
>all complaints regarding commercial vendors use of, or alleged abuse of the
>list.
>
>5.    Form a committee of list members, who can act as independant
>arbitrators of the above point #5, in the case of "serious" disputes. The
>committee will not have legal responsibility, just the trust and good-will
>of all list participants.
>
>6. Reporting to the list of the findings of said committee, including
>statistics, on a "regular basis".
>
>Marshall Ruskin
>84 Westy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 11:51 PM
>Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!
>
>
>>List members -
>>
>>After reading most of the follow up posts to Tim's comment, I must admit
>>there is almost an even split amongst people who are for vendor
>>"advertising" as there are people who are against vendor "advertising".
>>We'll personally I think, at TIMES there is too much advertising on the
>>list.  On the other hand, I would hate to see it totally leave the list as
>>Ron, Ken and others (including myself) do provide the list with valuable
>>information, tips and can offer a lot of advice to the less knowledgeable
>>list members.  The occasional advertisement isn't totally out of line as I
>>am sure most of us will agree.
>>
>>So this leaves suggestions on what we should do.  I don't want to dictate
>>what goes on this list because it isn't my list - I like to consider
myself
>>as a referee of sorts.  I guess we have the following options:
>>
>>- ban advertising
>>- limit OUTRIGHT adverting to ( for example) Saturdays and Mondays
>>- leave things as it
>>
>>I am quite interested personally in the outcome of this because I have my
>>own business that deals with Volkswagen parts and accessories.  I have
kept
>>my business activities to a minimum in order not to conflict with my
duties
>>as a list administrator.
>>
>>As always I am open to comments or suggestions both openly or via pmail.
>>
>>David Marshall - vangon list administrator
>>David's Volkswagen Home Page - david@volkswagen.org
>>Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning - sales@volkswagen.org
>>
>