Date:         Thu, 19 Oct 1995 17:20:36 -0700
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         raven@halcyon.com (Mark McCulley)
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: Value of '87 Syncro Westfalia

All speculation aside, I'd just like to know what people are actually 
paying. I live in the Northwest where all buses and vanagons command a 
premium price. BTW the loan officer at my bank said that they would loan 
$12000. Since they require 25% down on used car loans, they must have pegged 
the value at $16000. And it cost just a bit over $20K brand new almost nine 
years ago!

-Mark McCulley

 
>     Brad,
>
>     I agree that it is high (more than I paid for my 90 with 13,000 less
>     miles) , but not twice what it should be. Here is one approach that
>     Mark could consider:
>
>     If I am correct, it is a Westfalia GL, not just a GL, so what is the
>     premium for a Westie? Edmunds shows an 87 Camper GL is worth
>     $2775 more than a GL.
>
>     Then there is the Syncro premium. The Blue Books say its worth
>     something like a $500 premium, I suspect the market will pay more.
>
>     Also, we have to consider a premium for having both in the same
>     package...its worth something in the eye of the buyer who will settle
>     for nothing less than a Syncro Westie, because Westies are harder to
>     find than Vans, and Syncros are even harder. Both together is, IMHO,
>     the ultimate late model van. This is much less tangible...
>
>     Edmunds, for what it is worth, says with a mileage adjustment
>     this car is worth, retail (i.e. asking) $9645.  I paid 7% over Edmunds
>     retail price for my 90, and think I got a good deal. So figure 10%
>     over Edmunds as a reasonable deal- so I would come up with something
>     like $10,600.
>
>     Now, FWIW,  if I could have picked up a 87 with these miles
>     for that price, I would have grabbed it...
>
>     Tom F.
>     90 Syncro Westie
>     90 Audi 200 TQW IA Stage I
>
>
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>Subject: Re: Value of '87 Syncro Westfalia
>Author:  SSGSPEAR (INTERNET.SSGSPEAR) at HR
>Date:    10/19/95 5:17 PM
>
>
>In a message dated 95-10-19 09:30:51 EDT, raven@halcyon.com (Mark McCulley)
>writes:
>
>>I looked at an '87 Westfalia today, Syncro, very nice, 67K miles. It's a GL
>>with locking rear differential and no other options as far as I could tell.
>>The owner is asking $17,500. Is this a reasonable price? I know these are
>>pretty rare, but do they really go for this much?
>
>Let me know where I can get that much for an '87 Synrco GL!!!  I'll take mine
>(that I paid $6995 for) sell it and take the profit and get a Syncro Westy
>for the $17,500!!
>
>That price is about twice what it's worth.
>
>SSG Brad Spear
>1972 Westfalia
>1987 Syncro GL
>
>