Date:         Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:28:01 -0800
Reply-To:     Edmund Hintz <ed@HINTZ.ORG>
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From:         Edmund Hintz <ed@HINTZ.ORG>
Subject:      Re: breadloaf EV sighting
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Yeah that's the norm. Pre-68 is split window, 68-79 is bay window, 80-92
Vanagon. Can also be referred to as Type 2 {T1, T2, T3} respectively,
tho usually only the Vanagons are called the T3 (possibly again because
the other nicknames are disparaging).

It easily leads to confusion when you're talking Type 3 vs Type2 T3.
Just to make it more fun, the early motors are referred to as T1, the
'73 onward pancake ones are T4, and the '82 onward generally
wasserboxer. Too many contextual T-this/that/theOther.

Haven't had a split yet, but did have two bays, the '70 franken-Westy we
took to Inuvik and a '78 Westy with the pancake, also an '84 Westy
wasserboxer. Kinda miss the ol' T1 motor honestly, that thing was by far
the easiest to work on. Standard Westy layout in the early bays and
splitties was kinda messy tho, with the closet blind spot, and I also
prefer the later model pop tops with the luggage rack above the driver.

It's been interesting seeing all the EV conversions in recent years.
Busses in particular seem well suited with space for the batteries. Tho
the beetle and thing conversions worked it out well enough. That '61
double cab that EVW did is pretty awesome, full on burnouts and such
which of course is pretty much unheard of with the original T1s.

On 2/15/25 9:23 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
> Very cool that you saw this EV bus.  I usually call that style of bus a Bay Window. Earlier bus is splitty, Vanagon just vanagon or bus as the nick names are not fun, brick and wedge, mostly given by non  Vanagon fans.
>
> Eric
>
>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 10:48 AM, Mark McCulley <mark@MARKMCCULLEY.COM> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not clear on my bus nomenclature but I used to own a '74 and this one was like that one. I think those are called breadloafs but not 100% sure. It was not a camper, looked like it had the original interior.
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 4:18 AM, ddbjorkman@verizon.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Typo or not.  It was cool that you should come across that EV conversation.
>>>
>>> Have you got any more details on the loaf (bay window, breadloaf, etc.)?
>>>
>>> Dave B.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 14, 2025 at 12:37:44 PM EST, Mark McCulley <mark@markmcculley.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for the typo, damn autocorrect.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2025, at 8:26 AM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET <mailto:mwmiller6@ATT.NET>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, Oops? Breadloaf?
>>>>
>>>>    On Friday, February 14, 2025 at 08:13:16 AM PST, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@att.net <mailto:mwmiller6@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's a broadleaf?
>>>>
>>>>    On Friday, February 14, 2025 at 06:27:25 AM PST, Mark McCulley <mark@markmcculley.com <mailto:mark@markmcculley.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I saw a freshly restored broadleaf, looked to be a '74, parked at the local grocery store. I walked over to check it out and it turned out to be an EV conversion. First one like that I've seen.
>>>>
>>>> -Mark
>>>>
>

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Regards,

Ed Hintz
ed@hintz.org