Date:         Tue, 4 Feb 2025 09:28:14 -0800
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From:         Mark McCulley <mark@MARKMCCULLEY.COM>
Subject:      Re: AI Engine Status For Vanagon Owners
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Yes they are, located here: http://gerry.vanagon.com/archives/

-Mark

> On Feb 4, 2025, at 7:44 AM, Al Carey <careyald@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Are the archives of this list available to the public? Sounds like a great resource for a Vanagon newbie such as myself.
> 
> Thanks,
> Al 
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2025, at 10:27 AM, Mark McCulley <mark@markmcculley.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestions Derek. I've dabbled with AI, mostly ChatGPT and Gemini. I was underwhelmed with the information I got from Gemini, it would give me answers that I knew to be incorrect and then when I corrected it, it said something to the effect, "sorry, you are correct..." After a few instances of this I lost trust and quit using Gemini. That was about a year or so ago though and I suspect things have improved since then.
>> 
>> -Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The potential of AI is determined by your imagination. If you have no
>>> imagination and are not curious, you won't use it.
>>> 
>>> If I were tuning an AI engine someday, I would tell it to pay special
>>> attention to everything Dennis Haynes says and some other people. Or, if
>>> you have access to the archives of this list, you can actually read
>>> everything he ever wrote. I have every email on this list from 1994 and
>>> will feed it to AI one of these days somehow.
>>> 
>>> Make sure all of the following are quick links in your browser bookmarks
>>> bar. And yes, you need them all because often, only one or two of them will
>>> be best at what you want them to do. If you only use one, you will
>>> constantly be crashing your car into a tree.
>>> 
>>> A+ https://www.perplexity.ai* Real Time Search plus AI*
>>> A https://claude.ai Anthropic backed by Google and Amazon
>>> A https://chatgpt.com OpenAI
>>> A- https://gemini.google.com Google, a little behind
>>> B+ https://copilot.microsoft.com Microsoft, a little behind
>>> B https://grok.com Elon Musk
>>> B- https://www.meta.ai Zuckerberg
>>> B - https://chat.mistral.ai French Dudes
>>> C+ https://chat.deepseek.com** China came from behind
>>> *Consider the paid version of Perplexity and consider attaching
>>> OpenAI/ChatGPT to this as I do to get the A+
>>> **It may be some days until Deepseek is available again. ACTUALLY, the best
>>> way to use Deepseek is to use it via Perplexity because then your queries
>>> don't go through China and get recorded by China. With that concern erased,
>>> (Deepseek + Perplexity COMBO) might be in the very top tier of these links.
>>> 
>>> There is also a Vanagon focused AI but I have not tested it yet, here:
>>> https://chatgpt.com/g/g-NL7QcdICZ-vanagon-maintenance-guide
>>> 
>>> Forward this list to whoever you think.
>>> 
>>> Over time, you should be paying for some of these and some of them you can
>>> keep using as the free versions.
>>> 
>>> Don't want to pay?????
>>> 
>>> There was a time when you did not want to pay to have a cell phone. But
>>> none of us would turn our cell phones in these days in order to save the
>>> fee.
>>> 
>>> Think about it.