Date:         Tue, 4 Feb 2025 07:26:44 -0800
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From:         Mark McCulley <mark@MARKMCCULLEY.COM>
Subject:      Re: AI Engine Status For Vanagon Owners
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Thanks for the suggestions Derek. I've dabbled with AI, mostly ChatGPT and Gemini. I was underwhelmed with the information I got from Gemini, it would give me answers that I knew to be incorrect and then when I corrected it, it said something to the effect, "sorry, you are correct..." After a few instances of this I lost trust and quit using Gemini. That was about a year or so ago though and I suspect things have improved since then.

-Mark


> On Feb 3, 2025, at 6:35 PM, Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> The potential of AI is determined by your imagination. If you have no
> imagination and are not curious, you won't use it.
> 
> If I were tuning an AI engine someday, I would tell it to pay special
> attention to everything Dennis Haynes says and some other people. Or, if
> you have access to the archives of this list, you can actually read
> everything he ever wrote. I have every email on this list from 1994 and
> will feed it to AI one of these days somehow.
> 
> Make sure all of the following are quick links in your browser bookmarks
> bar. And yes, you need them all because often, only one or two of them will
> be best at what you want them to do. If you only use one, you will
> constantly be crashing your car into a tree.
> 
> A+ https://www.perplexity.ai* Real Time Search plus AI*
> A https://claude.ai Anthropic backed by Google and Amazon
> A https://chatgpt.com OpenAI
> A- https://gemini.google.com Google, a little behind
> B+ https://copilot.microsoft.com Microsoft, a little behind
> B https://grok.com Elon Musk
> B- https://www.meta.ai Zuckerberg
> B - https://chat.mistral.ai French Dudes
> C+ https://chat.deepseek.com** China came from behind
> *Consider the paid version of Perplexity and consider attaching
> OpenAI/ChatGPT to this as I do to get the A+
> **It may be some days until Deepseek is available again. ACTUALLY, the best
> way to use Deepseek is to use it via Perplexity because then your queries
> don't go through China and get recorded by China. With that concern erased,
> (Deepseek + Perplexity COMBO) might be in the very top tier of these links.
> 
> There is also a Vanagon focused AI but I have not tested it yet, here:
> https://chatgpt.com/g/g-NL7QcdICZ-vanagon-maintenance-guide
> 
> Forward this list to whoever you think.
> 
> Over time, you should be paying for some of these and some of them you can
> keep using as the free versions.
> 
> Don't want to pay?????
> 
> There was a time when you did not want to pay to have a cell phone. But
> none of us would turn our cell phones in these days in order to save the
> fee.
> 
> Think about it.