Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 17:51:30 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: ID Buzz
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The only revenge is high gas prices, but obviously that only affects an
unlucky few.
Jim
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:50 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Yep. Those jacked up trucks. They are huge. On the commute home after
> work, their headlights would shine into my Honda Accord rear window. I
> gave up. Decided if you can't beat them, join them; so I bought a Toyota
> Highlander. Better, a little higher too. But even now that is no
> good....those Pickups and Escalades keep getting taller every year. Giant
> vehicles, giant tires, giant suspension....and in Southern
> California....the bigger and badder the better! Luckily, I am retired now,
> so don't have to deal with it on a daily basis. From time to time, it
> even got scary....those massive beasts inches away from rear end.
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 03:34:27 PM PDT, Jim Felder <
> jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Necessary because the bumpers of SUVs and trucks are aimed at your head if
> you're driving a normal car.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 1:23 PM Todd Last <rubatoguy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > You can really see the impact of the safety capsule design in the
> > placement of the windows and high beltline. Particularly for cars with
> > lower heights. Also, when was the last time you saw a bench seat in the
> > front of a car?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On 6/4/2023 7:02 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I’m reserving impression until I get hands on experience.
> >
> > As for size I had a related conversation with a VW dealer. I said I
> didn’t love our new Toyota Rav 4 prime mainly because it was longer and
> wider than my Vanagon but didn’t have a lot of interior room. I thought
> the design was silly.
> >
> > His answer was. Cars are now a safety capsule. That missing
> room is so that people inside are safe.
> >
> > This is a good observation.
> >
> > I love my Vanagon and its use of space. And, it is not super
> unsafe, but not anything like the safety capsule of a new vehicle.
> > I suspect this impacts the space in the IDBuzz.
> >
> > Still with clever engineering maybe we can get that little van into a
> comfortable small camper mode, fingers crossed.
> >
> > Eric Caron
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2023, at 3:47 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@V6BUS.DE> <
> ray@V6BUS.DE> wrote:
> >
> > The most boring and useless rebirth of an icon.
> > The Buzz is a 5-seater "minivan" (4.6mtr) , in Europe like
> Sharan/Galaxy/Alhambra. US similar PontiacTransport and modern such?! I had
> a seat in it in Hannover last year.
> >
> > Now they are bragging with the long wheelbase 7/8 seater (4.9mtr). Have
> you seen the shine-through image of it? If completely fitted with seats,
> the luggage compartment is less than T5s.
> https://derivates.kicker.de/image/upload/w_1795,h_1010,c_fill,g_auto:subject/w_1000,q_auto,h_563/v1/2023/06/02/47c5eada-5799-4b02-8780-96f5763d067f.jpeg
> >
> > Our Vanagons are 4.6mtr and have a whole meter of that length as luggage
> compartment.
> > I am not saying the Vanagon is the ultmaite design for all eternity! But
> boy, the outer vs inner size has been developing backwards since the 2000s.
> >
> > Yes, VW has to ride the nostalgia wave. But in my opinion, they are
> dismantling their own heritage.
> > The young rich kids won´t care anyway and think it´s cool.
> >
> > Raimund
> >
> > Am 04.06.2023 um 03:07 schrieb Richard Koerner:
> >
> > Just watch: Watch Live: Volkswagen 3-Row ID. Buzz World Premiere
> >
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