Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:27:04 -0500
Reply-To: "Jim. Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: "Jim. Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Weird little electrical problem
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Have no idea exactly where the errant currant came from or exactly where and how it went. I would love to find out. But in answer to the second part, yes, my 37 year old diesel powered bus has all the modern upgrades : )
I am driving it almost daily, and none of this bed stuff is happening.
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> On Apr 25, 2021 at 10:22 PM, <Neil (mailto:musomuso@gmail.com)> wrote:
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> Cool. And yes, good point on water in fuel.
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> I know you're a very experienced Vanagon owner so assumed coolant
> level was fine but I've had the coolant low light come on while
> coasting down a long long steep hill. But in my case, as a less
> experienced owner-operator, in fact, the coolant was low.
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> ;^)
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> Just a WAG though but do you think power fed back through the cluster?
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> Has your van been upgraded to the later style coolant low module?
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> Neil.
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> On 4/25/21, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Neil, you may be on to a something. But a few comments:
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> >> On Apr 25, 2021 at 2:39 PM, <Neil (mailto:musomuso@gmail.com)> wrote:
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> >> Assuming water in fuel or slightly low coolant level weren't at
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> >> I can’t say about the water in the fuel—though it would still be in
> >> there, and the symptom hasn’t occurred since that night—but the coolant
> >> level was and is tip top.
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> >> Fault in 15 circuit (e.g. ignition switch) caused fuel cut off
> >> solenoid to close which in turn caused a subtle electrical design
> >> difference in the Vanagon.org foil to make the coolant light flicker?
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> >> I suspect this is likely the issue.
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> >> Here is where I think you have tied things together.
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> >> After 4 hours driving, excess water in engine bay would likely have
> >> evaporated off but.....
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> >> Water fouled connections at sensor that connects to glow plug relay
> >> which in turn caused issue in 15 circuit to fuel cut off solenoid? (15
> >> connects to solenoid via pin at glow plug relay)
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> >> Arm chair theorist,
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> >> Neil.
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> >> On 4/24/21, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I went on a week long birding/photography trip about a thousand miles
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> >> > Except for the first two days it rained pretty much all the time on the
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> >> > coast. I got flooded out of a campsite and drove down dozens of flooded
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> >> > streets. Nothing happened then but on the way home, after about four
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> >> > of driving, the temp light flickered on and off at times, usually 5 or
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> >> > minutes apart. The gauge showed normal the whole time. I stopped to
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> >> > sure everything was normal under the hatch. Twice the engine stumbled
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> >> > the red light was on but quickly recovered.
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> >> > I figured it was wet wiring. Since I got home and things have dried out
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> >> > have not been able to reproduce any of these problems.
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> >> > I drive a 1983 turbo diesel 5-speed with Vanagon.org dash foil
> >> > replacement.
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> >> > Jim
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> >> Neil n
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> >> VE7TBN
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> >> 1988 Westy 50º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt
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> >> 1981 Westy 15º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8
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> >> VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
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> Neil n
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> VE7TBN
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> 1988 Westy 50º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt
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> 1981 Westy 15º ABA swap: https://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8
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> VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
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