Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:10:00 +0000
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Seeing Red
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