Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 08:36:48 -0700
Reply-To: Alistair Bel <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bel <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Rear Brakes: E-brake lever lube,
E-brake spring function (purpose)
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Neil,
I just remembered something about those shoes I was so pleased with the radius. Just before xmas last year, when I had to fix my starter, I took the opportunity of the van on a lift to look at the rear brakes. I found the adjusting tab thing that is riveted to the shoe was broken on one. The broken bit was still in the drum. Sure seemed like "thinner than what should be used" steel. I tig welded it back together. I'll be looking at it again soon.
Alistair
> On May 6, 2016, at 9:25 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alistair: oddly enough, the shoes that are in there look very much the same as
> the GoWesty shoes I have in hand. Like the adjuster lever, e-brake
> lever, look identical.
> I can't recall if these were Raybestos Premium shoes or came from my
> local VW supplier.
>
> I pulled the e-brake cables. They were not seized but there is a mark
> at each in section of
> cable residing behind the drum. Image:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hx2vywa
>
> Of note, the driver side e-brake lever at shoe was really loose. The
> passenger side lever was
> tight and normal, for lack of better description.
> 14 second video showing movement at loose e-brake lever on shoe:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/jn8oabu
>
> I wonder if that adversely affected e-brake cable adjustment?
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
>> On 5/6/16, Alistair Bel <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> My last purchase of rear shoes fit the radius very closely. I wish I could
>> remember the brand, I can't be sure but it might have been local Napa. Or I
>> might have got them from local vw mechanic who gets from wholesaler altrom.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>> On May 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Almost all of the aftermarket shoes need to be shimmed out at the bottom
>>> to work properly. I have has some that needed 4mm on each. I think the
>>> problem is that they are using the same pattern as the earlier busses that
>>> had manual star wheels. The GoWesty shoes have been very consistent for
>>> fit and reasonably priced.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 13:10:12 -0700
>>>> From: musomuso@GMAIL.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Rear Brakes: E-brake lever lube, E-brake spring
>>>> function (purpose)
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>
>>>> Ah, ok. Shoulda known better re: shims. ;)
>>>> I see the shoe contact points on backing plate. Good tips.
>>>>
>>>> I've often wondered that if a backing plate became thin enough due to
>>>> corrosion,
>>>> would it flex under hard braking conditions.
>>>>
>>>> So many details!
>>>>
>>>> Neil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/6/16, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> There are no shims on those lower anchors. With the GoWesty shoes and
>>>>> new
>>>>> drums there is no room for shims. The GoWesty HD drums are even a
>>>>> tighter
>>>>> tolerance. The silver you see there is nickel based anti-seize. Not that
>>>>> I
>>>>> also used brake grease on the pads where the shoes rest on the backing
>>>>> plate
>>>>> and where the shoes rest on the cylinders and lower mounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> The creeper is known as "The Bone". it has large wheels that easily
>>>>> roll
>>>>> over obstructions like tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 22:34:18 -0700
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Rear Brakes: E-brake lever lube, E-brake spring function
>>>>>> (purpose)
>>>>>> From: musomuso@gmail.com
>>>>>> To: d23haynes57@hotmail.com
>>>>>> CC: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Just, wow; those backing plates have seen better days!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Neil n
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
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>
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>
> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/>
>
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