Date:         Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:07 -0800
Reply-To:     Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET>
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From:         Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET>
Subject:      Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
Comments: To: James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com>
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Meant to send to the whole list.

I do not have the square filter between the tank and pump. Nor does it
appear that this van ever had one..? I am considering adding one.

Also found this.. http://goo.gl/i73hNm

--t

1985 Westy Weekender 1.9l Original Engine.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:30 PM, James <jk_eaton@hotmail.com> wrote:

> To quantify the question, one reference says 111,800 BTU per US gallon for
> reformulated E10, vs 114,000 BTUs per US gallon for regular gasoline - a
> 1.9% reduction in energy content.  (Other factors do come into play,
> including the different motor octane and research octane numbers of the
> E10, and the slightly lower viscosity, which may cause certain fuel
> injection systems to inject more E10 per cycle, lowering fuel mileage.)
>
> I had an '83 VW Rabbit, CIS injection, that took a 10% mileage hit running
> on a late '80s version of E10 - but had measurably faster acceleration in
> gear, and much better hill climbing ability on the E10.  Every engine will
> vary in its reactions.
>
> Perhaps the lack of fuel pump noise is due to the E10 picking up some of
> the water (or rust) in your fuel tank and carrying it to the pump, which
> the regular gas is not doing.  Do you have a fuel filter between your tank
> and pump?
>
> James
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:15:06 -0600
> > From: jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >
> > My understanding about the alcohol in fuel, is, that except for the
> > enviromental factor (and that's questionable) gasohol is a rip. It simply
> > doesn't have the btu's that gasoline has. So by adding alcohol to
> gasoline
> > you get a power reduction, yet you still pay the same price. I know the
> > corn subsidy to the farmers has to be factored in somehow. Thats a hit on
> > our taxes.
> >
> > Anybody got more?
> >
> > John
> > On Feb 26, 2016 13:02, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> wrote:
> >
> > > That's why I'm confused. I did nothing else to the fuel pump other than
> > > fill up with Corn Likker free.
> > >
> > > The Butler Market Valero here in Bend carries it. Perhaps other
> Bendites
> > > know of a cheaper spot?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, David McNeely <
> davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where are you that non-alcoholic fuel costs that much?  I generally
> get
> > > it
> > > > for about 10 cents per gallon above the equivalent grade for
> alcoholic.
> > > > Currently locally (Spokane, WA) that amounts to $1.90 for
> non-alcoholic
> > > > regular.  But, I have to drive several miles across town, and have
> been
> > > > burning regular alcoholic that I buy for $1.75 from an outlet owned
> by
> > > the
> > > > Spokane Tribe.  When I lived in Oklahoma non-alcoholic was widely
> > > > available, but not here.  I get better mileage with non-alcoholic in
> my
> > > > Prius, but haven't been able to make an adequate comparison with the
> > > > camper, since my driving conditions with it vary so much from trip to
> > > > trip.  I believe it does better, however.
> > > >
> > > > How would the alcoholic stuff damage the fuel pump?  I understand its
> > > > damaging fuel lines and connectors.  Are the pump innards plastic?
> > > >
> > > > mcneely
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Tyler Hardison <
> tyler@seraph-net.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Yesterday I filled the tank with Ethanol Free gas (3.99/gal ouch) to
> > > >> experiment.
> > > >>
> > > >> Observations:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Van is running a bit smoother.
> > > >> 2. She's got a little more pep.
> > > >> 3. The most puzzling thing: The fuel pump stopped buzzing.
> > > >>
> > > >> Is it possible that E10 is damaging our fuel pumps?
> > > >>
> > > >> --t
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>