Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:12:28 -0300
Reply-To: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
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From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
Subject: Re: Tires.. Again
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Mark,
If you run a 205/65R15XL (or larger) in the eNTYRE, they work well - drove across the continent on a set last summer (~6000km) and have put another 3500km on them since and they are wearing well. I originally intended to run the Hakka C, but could not get my hands on a set in time. After some math, I concluded the eNTYRE should run fine ... which they do and much smoother than the Hakka C.
I run them at 48 in the rear and 40-42 in the front.
On 21-Jun-2015, at 23:42, Mark Hersh wrote:
> Thanks, Dennis, this is very helpful. So if I got a set of four of the
> Nokias (for instance) I would simply inflate the rears to 42 (their max,
> and with a load rating above that needed as described on the GVW plate on
> the door jamb) with the fronts at 39 and see how it drives/handles. I
> don't have to follow the psi recommendations on the inflation plate on the
> door jamb b/c I am no longer running the original tires...
>
> I looked and can't seem to find the complete specs for any of the Nokia
> tires. The eNTYRE, being a quiet tire, looks very tempting.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For a number of reasons I would go with the 205/65. For real nice highway
>> tire consider these:
>>
>> Note that most of these choices are XL rated tires, not load range C truck
>> tires. The XL tires are the better choice for number of reasons.
>>
>> These are designed for extended use at higher speeds over longer times
>> without the heat build-up concerns inherent in commercial tires designs.
>> Comfort and handling is part of the design.
>>
>> They reach their full rated load capacity at 42 psi. Going above that is
>> for rolling resistance and handling. A benefit since the VW recommends
>> lower pressure in front that the rear.
>>
>> The 99 load index is adequate and is above the 97 that originally came
>> with the vans with the 207/70-14 tires.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is amongst my favorite! What’s on Fun Bus in a 235/55-17.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=84&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&Label=E-C-72-2&details=Ordern&typ=R-146117
>>
>>
>>
>> A great rain-highway ultra-quiet touring tire.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-185709
>>
>>
>>
>> For the off road and winter use this would be a better choice at a lower
>> price.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=36&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-257039
>>
>>
>>
>> Another option:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=60&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-267164
>>
>>
>>
>> Winter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=84&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&details=Ordern&typ=R-242152
>>
>>
>>
>> The truck tire/commercial option.
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=96&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&Label=F-B-69-1&details=Ordern&typ=R-119149
>>
>>
>>
>> Or this,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&cart_id=25674052.135.26794&Cookie=pricegrabber&Breite=205&Quer=65&Felge=15&Speed=&LoadRange=&kategorie=6&Marke=&ranzahl=4&tyre_for=&x_tyre_for=&weiter=96&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&search_tool=standard&Label=E-C-72-2&details=Ordern&typ=457321
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Hersh [mailto:cmwolfsburg@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:23 PM
>> *To:* Dennis Haynes
>> *Cc:* Vanagon listserv
>> *Subject:* Re: Tires.. Again
>>
>>
>>
>> These threads are always helpful to me. In 2008 I upgraded to 15" rims
>> and unfortunately the tire I picked are taller than we would like (Michelin
>> LTX M/S in 215/75).
>>
>>
>>
>> We want a highway tire (don't do much off-pavement stuff and what we do do
>> is pretty much better Forest Service roads).
>>
>>
>>
>> I see the Goodyear Cargo G26 in a 195/70. Or Michelin Agilis or Firestone
>> Transforce in 205/65. All are load range C and can take 54 to 65 psi.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are some tires still available for the 14" rims. There are still the
>> skinny hard high capacity sizes such as the 185/80-14 hankooks and the
>> like. In 87 VW began offering the 205/70-14XL tires as a handling and
>> comfort upgrade. These are getting harder to find. There are still some
>> General Altimax tires available but they are out of production.
>> Tires-easy.com has some choices in this size and load rating and they are
>> very reasonably priced.
>>
>> If willing to go for a wheel upgrade avoid 15's unless you want to
>> increase diameter. Few choices with adequate capacity without going taller.
>> Going to 16 or 17 gets choices with needed capacity and true modern
>> performance options. Favorite size is 225/60-16. This is only 3/4-1" taller
>> and the 225 width is a substantial improvement. Normal load index is 97 0r
>> 98 and XL 102 is readily available. This is a very common size. For Syncros
>> a 215/65-16 is a tad taller and can be made to fit in the spare
>> compartment. There are a number of outstanding winter and all season with
>> winter capability tires with the XL rating available. Going to a 17;s you
>> can go 225/55-17 with the same advantages and even better handling although
>> you will feel the bumps more. American Racing offers the AR95T wheels in
>> both 16 and 17 direct fit for the Vanagon with a 2,200 lb. load rating.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of Tyler Hardison
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:49 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Tires.. Again
>>
>> My weekender has the original 14" steel rims and the chrome VW hubcaps.
>> But tires seem impossible to find.
>>
>> Is there a last ditch hope to find the correct tires? Or should I remove
>> her original feet to upgrade and just not worry about it.
>>
>> I know, personal preference.
>>
>> Those that have upgraded, was the upgrade that noticeable in the vans
>> stability?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 86 Campmobile Six-Seater "Monty"
>>
>> Black dogs are euthanized at a greater rate than other-colored dogs,
>> regardless of temperament. Learn about Black Dog Syndrome at
>> http://www.blackpearldogs.com/ Learn about black dogs in a Vanagon at
>> http://www.pbase.com/mhersh/image/108220533
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 86 Campmobile Six-Seater "Monty"
>
> Black dogs are euthanized at a greater rate than other-colored dogs,
> regardless of temperament. Learn about Black Dog Syndrome at
> http://www.blackpearldogs.com/ Learn about black dogs in a Vanagon at
> http://www.pbase.com/mhersh/image/108220533
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