Date:         Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:56:58 -0700
Reply-To:     Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
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Not worth it to me either, and neither is spending money on the stock system, which I have removed from two vans.  But I live in the Pacific Northwest where we have natural air conditioning.  If I lived on the east coast or the sun belt I'd seriously consider it.

They only keep the compressor and condenser, so it's a fair price for a modern system that actually blows cold air in your face.  

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: mcneely4@cox.net [mailto:mcneely4@cox.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:37 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; Stuart MacMillan
Subject: Re: Changes to a '90 Westy

Not very pricy, is it.  I mean, only $4370 for a van with factory air.  Not very pricy.

mcneely
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---- Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote: 
> I post this every summer, but if you want real air conditioning, this 
> is the solution: 
> https://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=62
> 
> Come up to the beautiful Pacific Northwest and rent a car to do some touring while they do this conversion.  It will cost less than constantly messing with an obsolete and poorly designed system, including the mini vacation.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:00 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
> 
> Patti, that cabinet has been in and out of my van multiple times in dealing with the air conditioning.  I don't have the receipts in front of me at the moment, but the repair costs would not be nearly as much as yours anyway, because you are in California.  Plus my mechanic in Oklahoma had exceptionally low overhead given his location out in the sticks.
> 
> But, bottom line for me is, the AC system in the old vehicle is just too leaky, and I don't like dumping the refrigerant into the air.  I want to get it fixed for some  trips that I HOPE I will get to make later this summer (still working on finding a house here in the beautiful NW right now, so can't really go anywhere until that happens).  But, only if I become convinced that this time it will be right.  Maybe I need all new refrigerant hoses.  I've heard that the R134a slips through the wall of the old hoses.
> 
> mcneely
> 
> 
> mcneely
> 
> ---- PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM> wrote: 
> > I recently got an estimate from a local shop who specializes in air 
> > conditioning in vintage vehicles.  Yes, it is expensive, but also 
> > comes with a 12 month warranty. HOWEVER, they DID warn me that *IF* 
> > there was a leak in the hose, it would double the cost of the job.  
> > He showed me what he was talking about and explained that it would 
> > require the removal and reinstallation of the rear cabinet. The 
> > worst case scenario is not good, but it does give me "hope."  At the 

> > moment I have an oil and a transmission leak to get repaired, so the AC project is on the back burner for now.
> >  (I'm wondering how tough of a job it is to remove and reinstall the
> > cabinet.)
> > Patti
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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