Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:11:30 -0700
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From: OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
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I've found that those Clips tend to be JustSnugEnough that they just CreepOutNicely ~
& if you make a ClipSandwich with the Clip between a FingerTip & the ScrewDriverBlade it's
usually QuiteControllable ~ Or a Small NeedleNosePlier can be used as well ~
ORR ~ DeanB
On 26 Jan , 2015, at 4:29 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> I'll try that, and hope it doesn't fly away somewhere and hide, like the
> head rest clip I pulled.
>
> I'll have a 5 gallon bucket underneath too, just in case.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:15 PM
> To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: RE: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
>
> I usually put them in from the front. You can reach around and a small
> screwdriver will pop it out.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Stuart MacMillan
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 5:50 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
>
> I had to replace all that other stuff just to get it running to the point I
> could even see other problems.
>
> Unfortunately, the clip is inserted from the front, so I'll likely have to
> get under it.
>
> I keep telling my son that if I can't fix it nobody can, and he's seen me do
> this successfully his whole life.
>
> However, there may be a really nice '87 Westy for sale soon (complete with
> intractable gremlins) if I can't.
>
> If he'd had the money, a Subaru would have gone straight in.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OlRivrRat [mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:37 PM
> To: Stuart MacMillan
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; 'Jim Felder'; 'Neil N'; Dennis Haynes
> Subject: Re: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
>
> Stuart
>
> DHs suggestion to clamp the XTank Hoses is a GoodOne ~ But I have
> changed
>
> Several of those T2Snsrs & the T1s & have never lost more than a Cup of
> Coolant &
>
> due to my 36"Arms & SkinnyHands I am able to do the Job FromTheTop ~ You
> just
>
> need to be Prepared & BeQuickAboutIt ~
>
> Hope you get this issue resolved as it sounds as if you've got a
> PrettyCompletely
>
> ReFurb'd Van there ~ I believe I would have chosen to have the Temp2 & O2
> Snsrs @
>
> the TopOfTheList though ~ After CheckingAllGrounds of course ~
>
> ORR ~ DeanB
>
>
> On 26 Jan , 2015, at 1:01 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>
>> Great tips, thanks all!
>>
>> Unfortunately, there have been so many run problems with this van
>> (he's been stranded twice) my son has no confidence in it, which is
>> unfortunate, since I encouraged him to buy it. So, with these last
>> two items I'll have replaced almost everything:
>>
>> Starter (Go Westy gear reduction)
>> Alternator
>> Alternator wiring to starter (Go Westy kit)
>> Grounds: Cleaned connections in engine compartment, replaced battery
>> ground strap and checked transmission ground strap Fuel lines Fuel
>> pump & filter Set throttle switch Cleaned throttle body Checked AFM
>> resistance Checked for vacuum leaks Rebuilt injectors Replaced idle
>> control module Capacitor fix in AFM New tune-up parts and set timing
>> PO put in a GT rebuild AT, water pump, battery, and replaced the fuel
>> tank vent lines and grommets.
>>
>> Only thing left after O2 and Temp 2 is the idle control valve, which
>> checks out as far as I can tell.
>>
>> I'm hoping we can drive it around town for a few hundred miles and get
>> he gets his confidence back with "everything new".
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 11:11 AM
>> To: 'Stuart MacMillan'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: RE: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor The easy way!
>>
>> Engine cold
>> Pinch hose or plug overflow vent on pressure cap. If air can't get in
>> coolant won't flow out.
>> Prep new sensor with O-ring.
>> Remove clip.
>> Quickly remove sensor, look for O-ring. Reach in and remove if stuck.
>> Insert new sensor with O-ring.
>> Insert clip.
>> Remove plug/cap.
>> Remove pressure cap. Top off coolant.
>> Replace cap and connect hose.
>>
>> Done.
>> You should only loose a quart or so this way.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of Stuart MacMillan
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 11:54 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Tips on replacing Temp 2 sensor
>>
>> Still chasing bugs in my son's '87, and I'm going to replace it and
>> the O2 sensor. It's got erratic high idle, stumbling when cold, and I
>> think it's running rich when warmed up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if there is a way to minimize coolant loss.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a lot of pipes into the T-stat housing, and I can't clamp
>> them all off. And, does the O-ring tend to stay in the bore and need
>> to be hooked out, or will it come out with the old sender? I'm going
>> to
> replace it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I may just use this as an excuse to flush and replace the coolant if
>> I'm going to lose a lot anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
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