Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:16:07 -0600
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem
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I plugged into this thread late.
If the clattering occurs when you start the van then goes away one or more
of hydraulic lifters are collapsing. As long as the noise goes away shortly
after you start it's harmless. No brand of oil filter will fix this but
thicker oil will reduce or eliminate the symptoms. The only permanent
solution is to replace the worn lifters.
Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
Eric Caron
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:29 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem
My van sits a long time between starts. How would this filter help and
would it work with mobile 1 Synthetic?
Eric Caron
85 GL Auto
On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:59 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Having a Mann oil filter will help prevent this.
>
> John
>
> On 2/25/2014 2:28 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:
>> This is turning into a real nightmare. I reinstalled the AFM; now it
>> starts fine, but the engine makes a loud clattering! It's done this
>> occasionally over the years, but always went away pretty quickly. Now it
>> won't stop. I've gone over it with a stethoscope and it seems to be
>> loudest at the driver's side of the intake air distributor, but it's hard
>> to pinpoint. I disconnected the fuel injector plugs and cranked the
engine
>> to see if something was bouncing around in a cylinder, but heard nothing.
>> Can all this be related? It all started off with a shorted oil pressure
>> sensor wire.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dennis Haynes
<d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Intermittent problems are often elusive. Will it start reliably with the
>>> AFM
>>> disconnected? If yes then you do have a mixture control issue and the
>>> sensor
>>> being disconnected is helping get past it. I would look for massive
vacuum
>>> leaks and wiring issues. Except for the O2 sensor which is a
"consumable",
>>> it is very rare for any of the other sensors to go bad. Again, the
>>> connectors and wiring is more often the real problem.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of
>>> Steven Shelton
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:12 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Engine Starting Problem
>>>
>>> I meant that the engine turns over and over but it will not start/run.
I
>>> checked the intake air sensor (Bentley 1999 edition pg 24.28):
>>>
>>> 2-3 556
>>> 6-9 557
>>> 6-22 2697@18 degrees C
>>> 2-3 and 7-9: ohms change as I moved the sensor plate
>>>
>>> Is this a definitive test or could there still be something wrong with
>>> intake air sensor?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Haynes
>>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cranking and starting are two completely different issues. The starter
>>>> will crank (turn)the engine over if you removed the complete fuel
>>>> delivery system and put it out to the garbage.
>>>> Check the wiring on the back of the starter. The solenoid trigger wire
>>>> may be loose and you're working near there is making or breaking that
>>>> connection.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Steven Shelton
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:18 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Engine Starting Problem
>>>>
>>>> OK, as I said above, the engine would not crank at all, even after
>>>> returning to it using a charged battery the next day. As soon as i
>>>> removed the AFM, even with the #1 spark plug removed, the engine
>>>> cranked right up.
>>>> I checked the ECU connector, with the following results:
>>>>
>>>> 2-7 3213 ohms@16 degrees C
>>>> at this temperature the reading should be 3000 ohm to 3500 ohm.
>>>> I also checked at the temp 2 sensor, it was 3178 ohm.
>>>>
>>>> Other readings were:
>>>> 1-7 10.64 V
>>>> 5-7 infinity
>>>> 6-19 558 ohm
>>>> 7-25 0 ohm
>>>> 11-7 14.9 ohm
>>>> 12-7 15.1
>>>> 14-6 3154 ohm
>>>> 15-19 555 ohm at rest, it moved up when I moved the plate
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean conclusively that the temp 2 sensor is OK? Any
>>>> suggestions on what to try next?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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