Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:46:18 -0600
Reply-To: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
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From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Distributor Woe's continue!!!
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Scott, everything is as it should be - not!
Here's what has happened:
I re-assembled the distributor to the engine, and went by the book. All
things correct. Engine started easy, idled on it's own - but due to the
lateness of the day, I shut it down, expecting to re-set timing and
tweak a bit next day.
Next Day:
Engine won't start. Won't even fire. I checked fuel - it's there. I went
back through the Hall sender test again - and guess what - now no fire
from the coil wire to the distributor!!!
Next step - test the coil. Which I have no idea at the moment as I
write - as to how to do. Gotta read up.
I'm definitely open to suggestions.
Thanks,
John
On 12/21/2013 11:35 PM, Scott Daniel wrote:
> the distrubutor may not be seated 'all the way down' and not being
> driven ( did you crank it with a remote starter switch with the dist
> cap remvoed to confirm the rotor turns ?? )
> that is a 'must do.
> also ..
> it's possible to get the dist 'sort of 'engaged, but 180 out, thus
> firing at the wrong time.
>
> when you put the dist in the block ..do it with your fingers turning the
> rotor..
> you'll find that one way feels 'sort of maybe ok' .
> bu the other way feels really right ..like down i and right.
>
> if helps if you know how to tell where the engine is positioned by
> observing vavle actuation and movement.
> You can tell when it's on # 1 TDC to fire if you know what to look for. .
>
> S.
> On 12/21/2013 10:52 AM, JRodgers wrote:
>> Volks,
>>
>> On my '88 GL - I pilled the distributor - and found the Hall Sender
>> connector that sticks out - to be broken off. Replaced the Distributor
>> with known good one. Set the timing mark on the large pulley to the
>> split in the case. Set the distributor finger to the marke on the
>> distributor case. Hit the switch and the engine started right up. It ran
>> a bit rough - I expected that - it had been sitting a while. Valves were
>> clattering. It was late - so I shut it down and expected to work on it
>> later to set the timing. I have never been able to get it to start
>> again. Cranks - but absolutely no start.
>>
>> Today, I rechecked all the settings, made sure all connectors were
>> connected. Then performed the Hall sender systems check. All test were
>> positive. Spark at the coil wire every time the center connector of the
>> hall sender plug is grounded. The injectors pulse audibly, Fuel pump
>> turns on, idle stabilizer valve hums - but this baby is as dead as a
>> late season Salmon on the river bank!! It turns over plenty good - but
>> will not start.
>>
>> After all the ignition tests were positive - I was sure there is a fuel
>> problem - but the pump runs. However - even though I got the FI to pulse
>> - I never smelled any fuel - and as many times as I pulsed them - I
>> would have thought I would smell fuel - but no joy!
>>
>> Gonna try the ether next - see if I can even get it to fire. After that
>> - I'm not sure where to turn -
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas??
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John in Alabama - where we are about to be hit by some terrible weather
>> - heavy rain, wind, lightening, thunder, and tornadoes. It is so hot I
>> am wearing shorts today - and it has been raining off and on - the
>> perfect setup for a cold front passage to come through and clobber us
>> good with the bad weather as it slides under the warm air and pushes all
>> that moisture up high. The edge of that frontal band is nowhere to be in
>> an airplane!! For sure!!
>>
>
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