Date:         Sun, 5 May 2013 08:28:19 -0700
Reply-To:     Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Subie swap curiosity
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I would imagine that average temp for your area makes a big difference.

Steven
91 Westy


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, David Milo <dellaone@gmail.com> wrote:

> I read the same comments from Hobart, but do not understand why 30 to 40
> more horsepower would "blow it out". Other than Hobart's accounts, the only
> actual stock transmission cooler failures I have heard about are the mixing
> of coolant and transmission fluid within the cooler, and that was with the
> stock 2.1 engine, not resulting from a conversion. Our van is driven year
> round near Pittsburgh PA, (salted roads included), and this failure mode
> has not happened to us.
>
> Personally, I drive my Subaru powered Vanagon like I used to drive it when
> it had the 2.1. Yes, there is more power, and you can cruise effortlessly
> at 70 MPH without worrying. I will say that the Subaru 2.2L is not as silky
> smooth as a 2.1L VW, as it does create certain resonances at cruise ( in
> the transmission selector for instance, it can cause a buzz), but overall,
> I would never go back. It keeps on going and going, and even a timing belt
> replacement in situ isn't as difficult as replacing a rusty 2.1L exhaust
> system. IMHO.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Miguel Pacheco <mundopacheco@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >  I have a 90 GL Automatic that is a dream to drive. I have wondered if
> the
> > subie would be as smooth as that little 2.1.
> > Miguel
> >
> > Miguel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've never tried running one with the stock vanagon oil cooler on the
> > > trans.
> > > Hobart Kenedy says somewhere in his materials that he blew out a few ..
> > > hence the need for an external aftermarket one.
> > >
> > > I grind the weights down a tad after I have it running successfully.
> > > ymmv
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/4/2013 4:42 PM, David Milo wrote:
> > >
> > >> I beg to differ as far as the requirement for a replacement automatic
> > >> transmission cooler is concerned, at least using a 2.2L Subaru
> engine. I
> > >> have approximately 90,000 miles on my 2.2L Subaru conversion, and it
> is
> > >> using the stock Vanagon automatic transmission cooler with the
> original
> > >> automatic transmission currently at 245,000 miles. Some folks also
> > >> maintain
> > >> that the auto box transmission governor flyweights can be ground in
> > order
> > >> to increase shift point RPMs, but I find that if the transmission
> > linkage
> > >> is properly adjusted, there is absolutely no need to do that.
> > >>
> > >> Just my experience.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  And the auto trans can handle more power, as well (if you care about
> > >>> those
> > >>> sorts of things). ;)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> > >>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  it's easier with fewer parts.
> > >>>> The KEP adapter and flywheel/torque converter drive plate costs less
> > >>>> than their manual trans adapter and flyhweel..
> > >>>> and there's no clutch kit to buy either.
> > >>>> You do need one extra part..
> > >>>> an oil cooler for the auto trans. Either a air-type finned oil
> cooler
> > or
> > >>>> check out Heat Sink for vanagon auto trans.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> plus....it's a pretty sweet combo ..
> > >>>> subaru engine with vanagon auto trans .
> > >>>>
> > >>>> scott
> > >>>> www.turbovans.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/4/2013 1:06 PM, JRodgers wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  Is the subie engine swap into an Auto-tranny V-gon more complicated
> > >>>>> than
> > >>>>> into a manual tranny V-gon? Extra things, pieces, parts, etc??
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Opinions?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> John
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> >
>