Date:         Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:30:44 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: More on Westy Prices
Comments: To: Bill M <billmonk@GMAIL.COM>
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A Syncro can always need a tranny. In fact any of the manual trannies can
break stuff with no regard for mileage or time. As for engines, if it has
less than 150k then you have to also assume overall lack of care/knowledge
or some level of abuse.

As for the quality of rebuilds there is of course all levels. However from
experience true defects/poor quality usually happen almost immediately after
install. Except for things like soft valve stems and some other stuff most
failures after 3,000 miles are not a rebuilders fault.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Bill M
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:09 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: More on Westy Prices

Good points Neil. Every Vanagon I buy I always assume it to need a motor and
if a syncro a tranny. Unless they can produce verifiable documents from a
know builder. If its a GEX,AVP,etc..it's junk to me. I actually prefer one
that's not running so I can yank the stock power plant out and put in a
conversion. Like a zetec...for example!

Bill M
87 Westy
Zetec Turbo


On Feb 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Important point and my first thought.
>
> And, poorly lit images of the vehicle suggest either poor camera
> skills, a less than average cell phone camera, or they don't want to
> lead off showing dents rust etc.
>
> Regardless, if engine built right, could be a decent buy. A few dents,
> minimal rust seems pretty normal for Westy of that vintage and price
> range. OTOH, things like the propane tank, tent, etc. add up.
>
> Also, the ad doesn't mention "Westfalia" or the like. A Westy owner
> with any amount of experience would show that in the ad. My guess is
> the owner bought it, thought they'd stuff a running engine in and turn
> it around.
>
> Neil.
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:45 AM, J Stewart <fonman4277@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm always suspicious when a vehicle goes up for sale with a freshly
rebuilt, or even worse, freshly rebuilt non-running engine. Who did the
rebuild? Uncle Cledus?
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
> 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly  http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp
>
> '88 Slate Blue Westy to be named.
>
> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"  http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
> Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-
> engines