Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:07:18 -0700
Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: How To Choose YOUR Engine Conversion
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Yes, the turbo boosts the torque from 2000 to 4000 rpm significantly. The
chart on their site is impressive. They say "140 ft/lbs under 2000 rpm, and
204 ft/lbs at 3700 rpm". 165 hp at 4500. About 20 ft/lbs more than
normally aspirated at 2000, and it ramps up fast to about 65 more ft/lbs at
4000, where the non-turbo curve stays pretty flat at 120-140 ft/lbs in that
range. I think I could feel that in the seat of my pants, and have some hill
climbing power too!
Stuart
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:11 PM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: How To Choose YOUR Engine Conversion
hi ..
if you are saying a turbo Zetec has a torque curve nicely matched to a
vanagon ..
I can imagine that it does.
The non-turbo zetec vanagon I drove was all about power above 4,000 rpm and
didn't seem to match the vans torque requirements and gear ratios to me.
( oh, that guy had a fabricator guy fit some aftermarket turbo system ..
with methanol injection too...says it goes real well. )
so in that sense ..yes.
if you are getting a brand new turbo at the same time ...that's super nice
for sure.
yep, not sayin' Subaru conversions are 'perfect' ..
modern cars ..
say the super high tech VW's and Audi's ..
5 valves per cylinder ..that's gettin' awfully exotic.
We'll see how it goes ..
those high tech cars are what I might call 'great new cars' ..
and not such a great car to own at very high miles .
And I am sure there are people with 200+ K miles on their passat or whatever
turbo cars with few problems.
They can also be very, very intense to work on. i.e. expensive to fix when
they need it.
anyway,
it's all good.
'pure power' is not the only consideration ..
and the zetec package takes conversions to a whole other level, as I have
said before.
Scott
On 9/19/2012 12:42 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
$12k for a custom designed Bostig turbo vs. $12 for a used Subaru 2.5?
Maybe I'm missing something, but it's a no brainer for me. See the torque
curve graph, it's optimized for the Vanagon. I was not a fan of some early
turbos, but so many manufacturers are using them now with small engines to
get the power American's want. My son has a 2.0 liter turbo Passat, and
it's impressive. With intercoolers and synthetic oil I hope they are more
reliable now.
Stuart
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:16 PM
To: Stuart MacMillan
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: How To Choose YOUR Engine Conversion
How do you figure 'turbo or no turbo' is a no-brainer ?
there are advantages and downsides to both.
On 9/19/2012 11:23 AM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
Not to mention the turbo option!! http://tinyurl.com/8mfj6al Really sweet,
and won't bust the auto either!
At $4k plus $6500 for the kit, plus engine ($1000?) you've got an ideal
(DIY) $12k conversion! As an aging Boomer who has more life in the past
than in the future, this would be my choice. I'll start buying lottery
tickets.
Follow the Subaruvanagon list for a couple of months if you want to talk
yourself out of that conversion. Seems no one has solved the mysterious
"code 42" problem, among hundreds of others. Forums are the blind leading
the blind. For me, only a professional conversion with a Subie would make
sense. Also $12 or more.
Turbo or no turbo, that is the question. And that's a no brainer.
Stuart
'85 Westy "Gutless"
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
mark drillock
Subject: Re: How To Choose YOUR Engine Conversion
......One of the biggest advantages of the Bostig Zetec conversion is that
every little thing is already figured out and documented, with videos
showing each step. Every other conversion will involve figuring some things
out on your own as well as asking in various forums for ways to deal with
all the obstacles.
Mark
Don Hanson wrote:
I am no conversion expert but I do have lots of experience having
things break while out on the road somewhere, in many different vehicles.
Keeping "All VW" does have real advantages in my experience. A lot of
the
parts are the same in my inline as in a regular WBX or a diesel. You
can
go to almost any VW-savvy shop and get the thing fixed..............
