Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:04:42 -0700
Reply-To: WILLIAM WITZ <pbwitz@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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This is a test. Sorry if this is wrong. One day I will get it together.
Bill
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There are 12 messages totalling 337 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Radiator Cooling Fan Cycles Frequently (4)
2. Spark Plugs: Bosch Single Tip to NGK BP6ET Tri Tip User
Opinions?
3. Frydae windmills was Re: The ever changing thread (3)
4. Spark Plugs: Bosch Single TIp to NGK BP6ET Tri Tip User Opinions?
5. Frydae Big Money is watching you... (2)
6. One Reason I Love My Vanagon
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:15:08 -0400
From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Radiator Cooling Fan Cycles Frequently
Don't get too hung up on tolerances of the gauge readings. There are many
parts with tolerances such as the gauge itself, the thermostat, the gauge
voltage regulator and even the wiring can all contribute to differences in
the gauge reading. As for the difference in the cooling fan cycling there
are a number of factors there also. I would start by replacing the fan
switch first. Keep in mind that there are a number of different
versions-temp setting available for these switches. You may have two
different ones there.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
JRodgers
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:11 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Radiator Cooling Fan Cycles Frequently
I have two 88 GL's with the 2.1L engines. The cooling fan on my blue van
cycles on and off far more frequently than my red van. The blue van seems to
run just a tiny bit hotter than the red van. I've noticed that the temp
gauge in the Blue van rides over but on the upper side of the light, while
in the red van it rides over the light but on the lower side. If I put the
two needles together side by side - they would cover the warning light. That
is pretty close - yet Ol' Red's fan does not come on until the needle goes
up a good bit, yet Ol' Blue comes on right at the top of the light. Anyone
have any ideas what this is about?
Thanks,
John Rodgers
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:21:55 -0400
From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs: Bosch Single Tip to NGK BP6ET Tri Tip User
Opinions?
I too have these plugs for many years. They are a favorite. The are a much
better choice that the W7DTCas those are really too long.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
John Meeks
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:05 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs: Bosch Single TIp to NGK BP6ET Tri Tip User
Opinions?
There's also Bosch Platinum +4 (quad tip) 4477. Installed today, seems to
have smoothed the idle and acceleration over the well used Bosch single tip
plugs they replaced. Smooth running.
John Meeks
http://www.vanagonauts.com
Vanagon Rescue Squad
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:46:36 -0400
From: Phil Zimmerman <philzimm1@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Frydae windmills was Re: The ever changing thread
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:48 -0400, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
>If you get it set up "just so" you'll be able to get up to speed and
>then shut off the motor and use the Acme Gas Turbine to keep you
>going as long as you're on the flat and don't have too much of a
>tailwind.* No messing about with Brown's Gas! No more zizzing and
>dripping like the tropical fish!
----snip--------
>Rotpunct have officially regretted the incident and subsequent kits have been
>provided with a
>prominent "Nicht Gefingerpoken" placard to eliminate this possibility in
future.
>Yrs,
>d
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Wow David.... :-)
Anyone else on the East Coast been feeling "different" or out of sorts lately?
Heat Wave perhaps?
Pz
Sent from my rock off the West Coast of Canada.
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:57:46 -0400
From: Phil Zimmerman <philzimm1@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs: Bosch Single TIp to NGK BP6ET Tri Tip User Opinions?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:33:17 -0700, neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>For those who have switched from good condition Bosch __ single tip plugs
>to NGK BP6ET 3 tip, did they find that these plugs
>
>- improved idle, power, fuel efficiency, combated male pattern baldness?
> ;^)
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Neil,
Doesn't seem to matter which type or brand I screw-in either my Van or my
person.
Van still doesn't run and my pattern baldness is still blamed on my long
deceased mother!
YMMV
Pz
Sent from my rock off the West Coast of Kannuckistan.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:12:12 -0700
From: Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Frydae windmills was Re: The ever changing thread
RE: Publishing the truth and helping to exonerate propylene gas
David, ignore the nay sayers. And thanks for having the courage to publish
the details and truth about that infamous campground incident. It's about
time the true story was told.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:13:37 -0700
From: Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Frydae windmills was Re: The ever changing thread
BTW, please note the time on my post, still Friday where I am :)
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com> wrote:
> RE: Publishing the truth and helping to exonerate propylene gas
> David, ignore the nay sayers. And thanks for having the courage to
> publish the details and truth about that infamous campground incident.
> It's about time the true story was told.
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:04:38 -0500
From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Frydae Big Money is watching you...
I use www.dogpile.com a great deal. Like it.
John
On 6/22/2012 6:53 PM, David Beierl wrote:
> Volks,
> You might find it interesting to listen to this TED talk by the CEO
> of Mozilla, then get the plugin called Collusion for either Firefox
> or Chrome (the Chrome one is a released product and gives more
> information, the Firefox is still in 0.x release. Both are free.) to
> get an idea of how your own web behavior is being disseminated and
> sold commercially; and possibly make some decisions based on that.
>
> And while we're on the subject, www.duckduckgo.com is a search engine
> that is not interested in your behavior and that returns the same
> search results no matter who or where is asking. I use it first and
> shift to another if I don't get answers there.
>
> Yours,
> David
> .
>
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:31:55 -0400
From: Harry Hoffman <hhoffman@IP-SOLUTIONS.NET>
Subject: Re: Frydae Big Money is watching you...
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:24:46 -0400
From: Bill M <billmonk@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Radiator Cooling Fan Cycles Frequently
I have one of the fan switches that kicks the fan on lower
than the stock switch is factory spec'd for. It was what I
had on the shelf at the time when installing a new radiator.
When I do a coolant flush this fall I plan to swap it for a stock
switch. I don't like the fact it kicks the fan much more
than an oem spec switch. I really believe if your system is
working properly it is not needed and only a band aid if it's
not.
Bill -whose fan runs more than needed...
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:51:32 -0400
From: Mike S <mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM>
Subject: Re: Radiator Cooling Fan Cycles Frequently
On 6/23/2012 5:24 PM, Bill M wrote:
> I have one of the fan switches that kicks the fan on lower
> than the stock switch is factory spec'd for.
>
> Bill -whose fan runs more than needed...
Sounds like it's too close to the thermostat temp. When the T-stat
opens, and lets more hot coolant through the system, the fan kicks in,
and the combination cools quickly. Lather, rinse, repeat. Doesn't really
hurt, but unnecessary wear and noise.
Fan T-stats need to be enough above the coolant T-stat to let it do it's
job. They shouldn't kick in until the coolant T-stat is fully open,
except A/C ones, which are to cool the condenser, not the radiator. But,
those are usually run continuously when A/C is on, so they don't cause a
feedback loop.
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:49:16 -0500
From: JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Radiator Cooling Fan Cycles Frequently
Yeh. Exactly my problem.
Thanks,
John
On 6/23/2012 4:24 PM, Bill M wrote:
> Bill -whose fan runs more than needed...
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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 20:59:54 -0700
From: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: One Reason I Love My Vanagon
You'll never see a Vanagon type van again in the US--front crush zones =
are mandatory now, no more rear engine vehicles. =20
VW campers that meet this standard are all over the world, except in the =
US. They would need to make one here for it to be affordable. =20
I think the future for those of us who want something modern this size =
may well be the Ford Transit, which is coming soon. Perhaps =
Sportsmobile will do a conversion someday.
Stuart
'85 Westy, looked at everything else available and bought another one
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf =
Of J Stewart
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:43 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: One Reason I Love My Vanagon
Weird day today, I am working in Virginia Beach (I live in N. Virginia =
outside Washington DC) and I'm here because the one tech we have in this =
area retired after 42 years with the company (and the company did =
NOTHING for him, I took him and his wife out to dinner on my own). =
Anyway, had to take possession of his company vehicle-a full sized Ford =
van-and bring it back to my hotel. Now I've owned several full sized =
domestic vans, all Chevy and GMC. I finally got tired of them because =
they are a bear to handle. Same for this Ford van. It floats down the =
road, it pitches side to side, and it is a PITA to park. VW got it just =
right with the Vangon-not too big, not too small. Easy to handle, easy =
to park. Its perfect! I just wish they still made them...
Jeff Stewart
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