Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:02:27 -0700
Reply-To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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Cool. Thank you.
Yah I'm in the middle of routing my fuel hoses a la Tencents engine (Chris
on thesamba). Image from thesamba:
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/866581.jpg
The above image was taken by new owner of a Tencent engine. Can't find
Tencents ad right now.
Am routing fuel hoses this way as the OEM protective sleeve is a tight fit
to the 5/16" hose, and, the sleeves showed signs of heat damage where they
were touching the engine block. I want to keep the hoses off of, and
further away from, the heat of the block.
I'm being Type A about securing the fuel hose. Will put a piece of new fuel
hose between cable strap and hoses. Am thinking of routing passenger side
hoses on top of the intake so they're a little further away from back of
alternator. But that introduces potential points where hose might rub. e.g.
at vacuum hose to PCV tower. My point.....
Details; do things rub? Are they secure but not too tight? etc.
Posting your attention to detail is appreciated!
Neil.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> Hi Neil,
> I support that 'new' fuel line on the right side of the bell housing
> somewhat..
> like hang it in a loop of heavy duty wire tie ..
> I like it where I can see it easily ..
> and mounting wise..
> I believe in 'floppy mount' often ..
> depends on what of course ..
> but ....having done desert racing and stuff like that....things banging
> around ...I thnk
> a mounting system with some give in it will often do better than a solid
> mount.
>
> So I don't mind that the hose from the engine connected to the black
> plastic line can move some..
> just so it very clearly isn't rubbing on something that could wear into
> it.
>
>
> On 5/16/2012 11:46 PM, neil n wrote:
>
> Being a newb to the WBX, I did not realize that. Makes sense. I'd assumed
> it mostly the plastic part that failed. That little hose on the front side
> of the firewall would be easy to over look or not even know of it's
> existence.
>
> In doing this upgrade, is the new fuel hose from the black nylon line to
> "T" supported in any way? Or is there any need?
>
> I noticed on my new ride that the return hose from FPR to tank passes
> through a grommet in the firewall. The hose looks like it's been replaced.
> Given that this hose looks newer than the others, I was surprised to see
> that it has a noticeable gouge on it from chaffing against the grommet or
> metal.
>
>
> Neil.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>
> In the many hundreds of vanagons I have worked on ..
>
> this plastic firewall fitting is not actually 'the problem'
>
> the spot that is really 'the issue' is about 3 inches forward of the
> firewall fitting, right above the starter ..
> where a short hose ( about 2 inches long ) that goes from the forward
> end of the firewall fitting to the plastic fuel line coming from the
> fuel pump ...the hose is clamped to the plastic line with a crimp type
> hose clamps..
> that is THE SPOT that leaks.
>
>
>
> what I like to do is remove the firewall fitting thing ..
> and join the hose on the engine ( that goes to the T where you can check
> fuel pressure, right next to the distributor ) ...joint that hose
> directly to the plastic fuel line ...
>
>
> I like it going through that space to the right of the bell housing
>
> where it's easy to eyeball.
> As I have said many times..
> I see no purpose in running the line through the hole in the metal
> firewall ...since then you have to proetct with a grommet, that will
> eventually wear out.
> one other tiny step ..where the black plastic fuel line is clipped to
> the bottom of the van's rear floor, above the trans ..
> take the line out of that clip so it reaches easily to the engine hose.
> a clamp or two there..and you're good.
> all gasoline vanagons need this simple upgrade.
> and it's not the plastic part itself that is the weak part that I have
> seen so far.
>
> scott
>
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
> 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp
>
> '88 Slate Blue Westy to be named.
>
> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>
> Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group:
> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
>
>
--
Neil n
65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp
'88 Slate Blue Westy to be named.
'81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group:
http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
