Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:18:43 -0500
Reply-To: "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
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From: "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: New Frydae topic? WAS: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
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Tire inflation pressures. People's brains lock up.
Chris.
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Dnia Feb 17, 2012 o godz. 11:31 Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM> napisał(a):
> What Vanagon related subjects NOT to post to the Vanagon List?
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Marius Strom
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:04 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
>
> You think tires are bad to bring up in the community? Try suggesting that
> you have some extra 10W30 oil for sale for other waterboxer owners to make
> use of. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Joe T.
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:41 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
>
> Dear Esteemed Members of The Vanagon List House Subcommittee on Classified
> Advertising and Tire Safety Regulatory Adherence,
>
> After spending some time on the web researching my pre-owned Michelin Agilis
> 51 205/65R15 tires' shelf life, as well as anectdotal evidence regarding
> treadwear and real-world life span, it seems to me that they're universally
> considered a long-wearing, long-life tire.
>
> Now if I lived in the desert and left the sidewalls exposed to the harmful
> UV rays of the sun at all times, ran them over every rocky trail at Moab,
> and shot at them randomly with my pellet gun while keeping them inflated to
> only 15 PSI at all times, then I could see their safety being a major issue;
> however, these ran on my lightly-loaded Wolfsburg Westy for 5000 miles and
> were rotated once in that span. They were bought by me from an extremely
> meticulous Syncro owner who rotated them religiously. He bought the
> pristine Syncro GL upon which they were originally mounted from a
> powder-coating shop owner in Oregon who used said pristine Syncro GL as a
> second vehicle.
>
> I'm not an insurance expert, nor do I claim to be. I could not find any
> real linkable information regarding a uniform policy of paying out or not
> paying out insurance claims based upon the age of tires, Michelin or
> otherwise.
>
> I've represented these tires as best I can, and appreciate the assistance
> regarding discovery of their manufacture date and location.
>
> I offer humble apologies that my original advertisement did not include my
> location; however, as has been pointed out, my Samba ad, the one with
> pictures (everybody likes pictures,) did note that I am in Denver, Colorado,
> and the tires are here with me, stacked gingerly (in the industry-standard
> one atop another method) my garage just to the left of my workbench and in
> front of my deep-fryer. It should be noted that the deep-fryer (a Bayou
> Classic 700-701) is currently out of service for the winter, so no transfer
> of pontentially damaging radiant heat has occurred. Also of note is that
> they are stacked in proximity to my bench grinder, but I have not used the
> bench grinder since the tires' placement, and do not plan to until after
> they are gone. They will be moved to a safer location should any emergency
> use of my bench grinder be warranted.
>
> While the vetting process has been thorough and at times trying, I'm
> satisfied that I have met all requirements of the Subcommittee regarding
> full disclosure of the condition, age, location, and use of the Michelin
> Agilis 51 205/65R15 tires in my possession to the best of my knowledge and
> without any nefarious intent whatsoever.
>
> I'd like to close by saying that as a member of this venerable group for
> thirteen jovial years now, I now am kicking myself squarely in the ass for
> forgetting the one, unmistakable, cardinal rule of this particular faction
> of the Vanagon community:
>
> Never bring up tires. Never, ever, ever bring up tires, even if you're just
> trying to unload a set because sucked in the snow, they're taking up space
> in the garage, and you acted both in the hope that another Vanagon owner
> could get some good use out of them and in the possibility that you can
> balance the Vanagon budget a bit after dishing out precious cash for a
> different set more suitable for your current needs.
>
> Sincerely,
> Joe T.
> '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2 (Brown Beige Metallic, Mftr. Date March 1985,
> currently running Yokohama Geolander 215/70R15, Mftr. Date August 2011.)
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Joe T. <vanagon85@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Miguel, good information there.
>>
>> I wrote down every little number on one of the tires last night, but
>> apparently not in any real legible way.
>>
>> I'll need to take a closer look now that I know what I'm looking for,
>> because according to my crack code-breaking skills, these tires were
>> made in 1967. Something tells me that's incorrect.
>>
>> --
>> Joe T.
>> '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2
>> Denver, Colorado, USA
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:28 PM, miguel pacheco
>> <mundopacheco@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a good link for determining tire manufacture date :
>>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11
>>>
>>> Miguel
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Joe T.
> '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2
