Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 23:56:41 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: The Vanille Shake Syndrome
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hi.
to the left of your water pump ...
where a large hose is connected..
you'll see two temp sensors screwed into what is the thermostat housing.
the single wire one is for your Temp Gauge.
the other one ..often blue in color and square, with a connector plug on it,
with two wires ..
that is your Temp Sensor II.
You can just unscrew it and screw in the new one with engine cold ..
and you won't loose much coolant.
there's a copper sealing ring ....make sure that's on.
Clean contacts as suggested.
you can measure the resistance of your old and new one for the fun of it ..
and just to get more handy at vanagon diagnostics.
if I measure 6 of them ..I get slightly different readings.
for your general knowledge............colder equals higher resistance.
When hotter, resistance is lower.
there is a scale in Bentley ...they tell you in Celsius ..
but you can convert that online in a second or two , to F degrees,.
they come in about two grades to me..
Asian made from you know where ....under 10 bucks..
and better ones.
I get the impression that Van Cafe tries to offer the better higher quality
parts. I like them a lot for certain Vanagon parts.
have fun !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Koerner" <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: The Vanille Shake Syndrome
Embarrassing question: Where on an 85 1.9L motor with a manual transmission
is the Temp Sensor 2? (got it on my list to clean the contacts and maybe
even replace since it's 25 years and 194,000 miles old) What does it look
like? What color wires, and how many, are leading to it? If you remove it
does coolant flow out?
Rich
San Diego
--- On Fri, 12/9/11, tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG> wrote:
From: tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG>
Subject: Re: The Vanille Shake Syndrome
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 5:56 PM
Absolutely.
Sometimes it's the connector to Temp Sensor 2, sometimes it's the sensor
itself. My '85 has done both.
Clean the connector really well with contact cleaner, then with something
gentle to medium abrasive, then flush well with contact cleaner to flush out
any abrasive left. Wait for the cleaner to evaporate. Help it along if you
want to. Be careful if it's flammable cleaner.
If that fixes it, great. If not I'd try a new sensor. They're not free but
aren't bad pricewise.
And I have an O2 sensor issue, I think. But I'll leave that open until after
New Year's Day as I won't have time to address it before then.
tom
On 9 Dec 2011 at 16:51, Ken Lewis wrote:
> Peter,
> Tattoo this somewhere prominently:
>
> Always suspect the TEMPII sensor.
>
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Antony P Marsh" <apetermarsh@ME.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:47 PM
> Subject: [VANAGON] The Vanille Shake Syndrome
>
>
> > Dear Readers
> >
> > Sorry to bother you but up against what appears to be the Vanagon
> > syndrome. After starting from cold the engine runs OK but when it gets
> > warm it coughs and splutters, seems to be missing and barely gets to 2K
> > rpm.
> >
> > Wondered if you have any ideas or suggestions? Here is what we have done
> > so far.
> >
> > Replaced the gear shift linkage nylon balls and other parts and the
> > shifting is like new, smooth, precise and is excellent. The soup spoon
> > gear lever is no more. Thank you to Dennis Haynes for his diagnosis and
> > Ken Wilford for his fast sending of the necessary "bits".
> >
> > Replaced 02 sensor with new Bosch sensor with three lead attached - made
> > no difference.
> >
> > Replaced the very red rusty fuel tank, all ensuing fuel hoses attached
> > to
> > the tank, new Bosch filter. The fuel pressure is excellent (35 lbs) and
> > the fuel is no longer rust colored - made no difference.
> >
> > We discovered a pig-tail already installed in the engine which looks
> > like
> > it has been there a while. I have another that I tried - alas no change.
> >
> > Discovered a crack in the distributor body - on removal - the crack
> > turned
> > into several separate pieces. Thinking this was it - replaced it. Still
> > the same.
> >
> > All the spark plugs are new Bosch, adjusted correctly.
> >
> > What I can't get over is how well the van ran on my way northern
> > Florida,
> > power was great, 70 mph was no effort and I was checking milage at 20
> > mpg
> > running the AC. Then it started with the cough - still sick......
> >
> > Kindest regards
> >
> > Peter Marsh
> > Naples FL
> > 239 595 6171
> >
>
