Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 00:07:22 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon engine noise - collapsed lifter?
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I recommend Joe Gibbs Racing High Zinc Formulation 15W50 "Hot Rod' oil..
specifically formulated for flat tappet older type engines..
and with extra corrosion inhibitors for less modern type cars that sit some
between uses.
For oil weight I go by how new/old the engine is ..
and time of year and ambient temps.
I don't think that the brand itself is that big a factor ..
some, but not a major factor as long as you are getting a quality product.
modern API oils have less zinc to help protect catalytic converters on more
modern cars.
Many modern cars have roller cam followers for just that reason ..
for example the 99 Subaru SOHC 2.2 has roller cam followers, where they had
flat tappet type cam followers before that ...
Modern API oils are not the same oil formulation we used to get say 20 yrs
ago.
But you can still get high zinc formulation oils like the one above.
Joe Gibbs Racing ..
the site tells about it.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Vanagon engine noise - collapsed lifter?
> Interesting. My local VW Guru says the Mobil One synthetic in a 15W50 is
> the way to go. That is why I have used it for the last 10-12 years. He
> recommends the Castrol 20W50 if the Mobil One in 15W50 is not available.
> And I confess - it has gotten difficult to find the Mobil One 15W50
> There is plenty of the other grades of Mobil One, but not the 15W50.
> Ironically - having three vans - I'm running three different oils. But
> my daily driver - which got a new engine in 2000 - after break-in has
> been running the Mobil One pretty much ever since. The other two - which
> don't see the heavy use of daily driving - use the brands that were
> being used when I got them. So - #1 van -'ol Red - '88GL runs Mobil One,
> #2 van - Gus - '88GL runs Kendall GT, and #3 van - a '91 Carat - runs
> who knows what. It's a project van and while it runs, it's parked as
> work progresses. Never have changed the oil. It was clean and clear when
> I got it. No idea what oil it is however. I did find some empty Castrol
> bottles in it though, when I got it.
>
> Just saying.
>
> John
>
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>
>
> On 12/1/2011 9:58 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
>> John and others FYI--
>>
>> My local VW gurus recommend against synthetics in a Vanagon. Castrol
>> 20W50
>> is recommended. In my experience, you are asking for a buzzer moment with
>> anything thinner.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:04 PM, John Rodgers<inua@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Collapsed lifter syndrome. Not to worry. Drive it a bit and it will pump
>>> up. A few that help to keep it from happening - Mann Oil Filter,
>>> hi-grade synthetic oil like Mobil One in 15W50 wt. Add a dash of
>>> Marvel's Mystery Oil. These steps will extend the time between periods
>>> of lifter flatness. But - it will run great, no no probs - until you
>>> park it wrong and then it will go flat. Just drive it, and it will pump
>>> up. You will need to run it every two or three days to keep them
>>> pumped.
>>>
>>> On an aside, good maintenance on your AC if you have it, is to run it
>>> once a week, winter and summer - to keep the seals lubricated so they
>>> don't dry out and lose the refrigerant.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>>> Chelsea, AL
>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/30/2011 12:22 PM, Todd Last wrote:
>>>
>>>> My Vanagon has been sitting for awhile and upon starting, is making a
>>>> noise and puffing out a fair amount of smoke.
>>>> Is this a collapsed lifter?
>>>>
>>>> I made a short video here:
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>> '88 Westy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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