Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:13:59 -0700
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: Water tank
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from commercial and home experience the best cleaning/sanitising
products I have found are:
1. sodium percarbonate in hot water for initial cleaning and some
degree of sanitation. This chemical (simple terms) is like gold old
fashioned washing soda (so it is alkaline cleaner) but releases
hydrogen peroxide. It rinses easily and is non foaming
2. follow that with a soak/rinse or preoxacetic acid soln (peracetic
acid). It too releases hydrogen peroxide and can be "dry in place" or
non rinse application (breakdown products are acetic acid and hydrogen
peroxide).
working concentrations of both chemicals can be obtained from
manufacturer.
They are by far the best I have come across.
alistair
On 18-May-11, at 12:34 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> Interesting. My daughter brews in her basement.
>
> Nice thing about these cleaners (some of them) is that the actual
> chemical agents are named in the catalog. Highly unusual for
> manufacturers of cleaning products to actually give such
> information. Usually, they provide some statement like: "Contains
> ionic and nonionic sufactants." Former could be soap, or could be
> sodium carbonate. Latter could be an alcohol, or could be a
> hydrocarbon. mcneely
>
> ---- Michael Rasmussen <michael@JAMHOME.US> wrote:
>> Another group of people with a strong concern for sanitizing lines
>> and
>> vessels are brewers and home brewers. Beer wort (the liquid yeast
>> converts into beer) is very hospitable to microorganisms. Good
>> brewers
>> are fanatical about sanitation and cleaning.
>>
>> Consider the array of products here:
>> https://www.fhsteinbart.com/phpapps/fhs_showlistitems.php?subgrp=CCL&subgrpdesc=Cleaning/Sanitizing%20-%20Cleaners
>>
>> Browsing a local home brew supply store will provide you with lots of
>> options to get your Westy's water system extremely clean.
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:08:27PM -0500, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>>> Jeff, I personally think that lots of folks are too finicky
>>> concerning the camper water tank water. I fill mine only with
>>> high quality tap water, rinse it clean periodically, and find no
>>> discernible taste other than that of water. For most VW camper
>>> water systems, if there is an off taste, I'd guess it is the
>>> lines, not the tank itself. In that case, I guess I'd replace the
>>> lines, as biofilm in there might be hard to clean out, whether
>>> bleach killed it or not. But the tank itself? If it did somehow
>>> get crud in it, rinsing is easy, and bleach should disinfect nicely.
>>>
>>> But of course, as a long-time backpacker (long before filters
>>> became the norm, and I haven't used one yet), I have ingested lots
>>> of iodine (Potable Aqua brand tablets). Off tastes are not a
>>> bother to me, I guess. Iodine definitely tastes. In a pinch, I
>>> guess you could use it in your camper tank, but bleach is more
>>> practical.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon
>> Riding to support treatment of arthritis - soon to affect one
>> in four
>> I will match your donation 1:1 Help out today: http://tapcc.kintera.org/michaelrpdx
>> Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/
>> Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour:
>> Quotations are useful in periods of ignorance.
>> ~ Guy Debord
>
> --
> David McNeely
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