Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:58:17 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: I guess if I'm putting on a tencentlife oil cooler . . .
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it does.
generally ...'more information' about engine operating parameters is always
useful.
After the engine oil temp gague you can do a transmission ATF temp gauge..
then start thinking about that oil and trans life.
I like Royal Puple Synethetic ATF for the auto trans myself.
I can change out just 3 qts and feel the trans go more nicely.
usually engines that have turbo's and those that are under more
stress....like diesels and turbo-diesels
are where you want to watch oil temps especially ..
or air-cooled VW's , those for sure.
Normally .....not too big of a concern on an non-turbo, gasoline,
watercooled engine ..
and if you get the oil cooler ...not likely you'll be pushing your oil temp
too hard then.
a good oil cooler installation and an oil pressure gauge to start with is
plenty.
I definitely approve of the tencentlie oil cooler..
the one I installed was very well done ....nice solid bolt-in kit of parts.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: I guess if I'm putting on a tencentlife oil cooler . . .
> Then it looks like having such a thing makes sense.
>
> On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 17:00 -0700, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>
>> you got it ..
>> 'more/better/other' info ..
>>
>> an oil temp gauge is useful to know that you are not pushing things so
>> hard
>> that the oil gets to a temp that's considered unsafe for maintaining the
>> oil
>> cushion between things like crankshaft and rod bearings..
>> eventually oil will break down if it gets hot enough.
>> Superior performance at higher temps is one advantage that synthetic
>> oils
>> offer.
>>
>> 'redline oil temp' for conventional oil is ...
>> opinions vary ..but much over 250F is getting pretty darn hot.
>> 275F would be approaching 'dangerous' .
>>
>> oil temp is always going to be at least coolant temp ..
>> so after a while it's 180 to 190ish anyway.
>>
>> An oil temp gauge helps you judge how hard you are pushing things..
>> and how safe your oil is, temp-wise, for your engine.
>>
>> btw ...
>> look for high ZDDP formulation oils..
>> or buy ZDDP oil addtive ..
>> it puts some of that good additive back in that has been eliminated from
>> most modern oils..
>> which are fomulated more to protect cataylic converters rather than
>> engine
>> parts.
>> So I read, that is.
>>
>> scott
>> turbovans
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: I guess if I'm putting on a tencentlife oil cooler . . .
>>
>>
>> > Sounds like a plan.
>> >
>> > Okay, ignorance speaking here: does an oil temp gauge provide
>> > more/better/other information than the stock temp gauge? Responds more
>> > quickly to heating, or something like that?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rocky J Squirrel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 14:05 -0700, Don Hanson wrote:
>> >
>> >> VW vendors sell a VDO gauge for pressure that has a small can like
>> >> sender with two electrical 'poles'...one for your existing
>> >> system...the
>> >> warning light..and one to run the aftermarket gauge.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know about the Waterboxer motor but on my inline VW motor I
>> >> put
>> >> it
>> >> onto the sender down at the oil filter flange and it works fine. You
>> >> will
>> >> have to run a wire from back to front and what I did was use some
>> >> 4-strand
>> >> trailer wiring wire...I used one strand to get the pressure sender
>> >> signal,
>> >> one for my Oil temp sender and I have two left over for any other uses
>> >> that
>> >> come later on.
>> >>
>> >> Don Hanson
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, courtney hook <courtneyhook@shaw.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Mr Squirrel,
>> >> > Do yourself a favor and buy a good quality one that is electric, NOT
>> >> > mechanical. What a nightmare running the capillary tubing for
>> >> > mechanical
>> >> > gauges, not to mention the lag time. I used to run a digital oil
>> >> > pressure
>> >> > gauge in my HP 2276cc Bug, which was very accurate and looked good
>> >> > too.
>> >> > Nowadays you can get them from just about any big gauge manuf. Just
>> >> > remember
>> >> > that the big ticket with these is consistency between readings. It's
>> >> > good to
>> >> > know what the gauge reads as an average of what you expect to be
>> >> > normal; not
>> >> > necessarily within 2 lbs. of actual pressure. If it varies markedly
>> >> > from
>> >> > what you expect to usually see, THEN you know something is up. Mine
>> >> > used to
>> >> > blink like crazy if the pressure dropped below 20psi.
>> >> > Courtney
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
>> >> > Date: Friday, April 8, 2011 1:09 pm
>> >> > Subject: I guess if I'm putting on a tencentlife oil cooler . . .
>> >> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> >> >
>> >> > > ...I might as well look into rigging an oil pressure gauge.
>> >> > > Anyone got a
>> >> > > handy kit or anything?
>> >> >
>>
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