Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:42:39 -0500
Reply-To: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
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From: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@FRONTIER.COM>
Subject: Re: Friday rant: fabric stores and sewing
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Hi Joe<br>
Sunbrella is fine but use the outdoor Fabric not the awning and boat
cover fabric. You can tell by the part number. If the 1st 2 numbers are
46 or 60 it is Awning. To heavy a hard hand to handle. If the 1st 2
numbers are 54 or 56 then it is for furniture. Great color fastness but
It may cost more then a Auto Fabric.<br>
If tapping into OEM body cloth it will cost you but if going with mill
over run or Flawed or even Discontinued you can pick it up fairly cheap.
Drop into a Auto Trim shop locally and ask them and see what they say.
They can show you samples of some great cloth. If your not cheap they
will be happy to order it for you in Cuts. Advantage of using a 1st
quality material is that in a few years if you destroy it or burn or
whatever you can go get more 80% of the time. It will be darn close to
the same color as your original piece. I like auto velvets. Warm and
never to cold or hot to sit on. Tweeds are also great but if you have
pets riding shotgun they will get hairy and hold hair a bit more.<br>
If you wife is Hairy then I guess your on your own. Vinyl is fine but hot
and cold and not one of my favorites. But pending your wants and needs it
works well. I know Sewfine has the Patterns for Vanagon interiors and a
full range of velvets that you can mix and match to get what you want. I
can do my own upholstery and on 2 of my VWs I have sewfine interiors and
one is TMI. I find they can make it and I can make more money doing other
things. <br>
But if for fun, Have fun. only person you can blame for screwing it up is
yourself, Like being your own mechanic.<br>
All in good fun!<br>
Jonce<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Jonce,<br><br>
Thanks for the info! Since reading your email, I've been giving
myself a crash course in fabric education, reading about FMVSS-302 and
lightfastness. I've found lots of fabric online that meets spec,
but can't see buying it without knowing what it feels like.
<br><br>
I'm told there are a few auto fabric places around Denver so I'm going to
check them out as soon as it warms up a bit. <br><br>
I did meet a guy with a Westfalia who had redone his rear bench with
Sunbrella fabric. It looked good and wasn't too vinyl-ish.
I'm thinking about looking into that as well.<br>
<br>
Thanks again.<br>
Joe<br><br>
<br>
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Jonce Fancher
<<a href="mailto:streetbugs@frontier.com">streetbugs@frontier.com</a>
> wrote:<br>
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<dd>Hi<br>
<dd>If going to a fabric store you may not find fabrics with UV
protection. There are Auto Upholstery fabrics that will give much better
performance for the rigors of Auto needs. Do a bit of research before
dropping coin and time on something that will just turn to crap in no
time flat.<br>
<dd>Have fun!<br>
<dd>Jonce<br>
<dd>BTW a rule of thumb is if it has a MVSS-302 usually it will work just
fine for auto but make sure it has a lightfastness of MANY hours in the
sun. Hate to see your work fade into dust!<br><br>
<br>
<dl>
<dd>This is a very timely topic...<br><br>
<dd>My mother-in-law and I are heading to the fabric store next weekend
to pick<br>
<dd>out the new interior for my Vanagon. She's offered to teach me
how to do<br>
<dd>the whole thing. I'm very excited to get into upholstery and to learn
a new<br>
<dd>skill!<br><br>
<dd>Joe T.<br><br>
<dd>On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Dave Mcneely
<<a href="mailto:mcneely4@cox.net">mcneely4@cox.net</a>>
wrote:<br><br>
<dd>> ---- Mark Dearing
<<a href="mailto:VWBrain@AOL.COM">VWBrain@AOL.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
<dd>> > In a message dated 1/29/2011 10:40:34 A.M. Eastern Standard
Time,<br>
<dd>> >
<a href="mailto:fonman4277@COMCAST.NET">fonman4277@COMCAST.NET</a>
writes:<br>
<dd>> ><br>
<dd>> > I am one of seven siblings<br>
<dd>> ><br>
<dd>> ><br>
<dd>> > hey david I am also 0ne of seven. my father
flew P38s during WW2 ,<br>
<dd>> > became chief of construction on the N&W railway , got
into VW buses<br>
<dd>> cause it<br>
<dd>> > was the only thing that could carry all of the
family. he is the only<br>
<dd>> person<br>
<dd>> > I know that has flipped 2 buses. Course we had to learn
how to fix them,<br>
<dd>> I<br>
<dd>> > rebuilt my first engine at 14 , was driving them even
earlier around the<br>
<dd>> > neighborhood and woods. Unlike jeff I really miss my
father, he would<br>
<dd>> love<br>
<dd>> > my vanagon westy. later mark d<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> Well, unlike most on this list, I am not deep into mechanics,
but the<br>
<dd>> basics were required when we were kids, and I required them of
my daughter.<br>
<dd>> but I go to a pro for anything beyond basics. I do
carry a tool kit with<br>
<dd>> me, and by having the camper in tip top shape on departure for a
trip, I can<br>
<dd>> keep it going and usually get out of a jam (haven't really had
much in the<br>
<dd>> way of a jam, just some concerns that have never gotten me stuck
somewhere<br>
<dd>> for long). But getting into transmissions and engine
innards, or even r&r<br>
<dd>> major parts, I generally don't do it. When I needed a
radiator, I had it<br>
<dd>> done at a shop. I'll be adding an external oil cooler from
"ten cent life<br>
<dd>> before summer," and I don't know right now whether I'll do
it myself or hire<br>
<dd>> it out. I do have a great guy who doesn't mind that I do a
few things<br>
<dd>> myself who does my heavy stuff. He will even advise me on
things I do<br>
<dd>> myself.<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> mcneely<br>
<dd>><br><br>
<br><br>
<dd>--<br>
<dd>Joe T.<br>
<dd>'85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2<br><br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Joe T.<br>
'85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2</blockquote></body>
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