Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:48:50 -0500
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From: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Hydrogen help for the Vanagons
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You don't need to use "micro-small" injector jets on a water injection
system. I made up a system years ago on a euro '70 Squareback w/ dual stock
carbs. I used a window washer reservoir, lines and windshield squirter
nozzles from an old Toyota. Those never clogged up, do yours?
The auto shifter thumb button got a contact wired to ground from the
washer fluid pump for an 'on-demand' manual system ( a long uphill pull with
audible engine knock). The squirters protruded thru a grommeted hole
drilled into the air cleaner ducts directly into the carb throats. It
worked like a charm at quieting the knock and keeping me powering up that
hill on a hot day.
I even found that you can use windshield washer fluid just fine. It's
mostly just water with alcohol added so it won't freeze in the winter. Does
it work? Yes, but almost no HP gained, just none lost like before.
YMMV,
Mike B.
-----Original Message-----
From: Max Wellhouse
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:32 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Hydrogen help for the Vanagons
I was under the impression that airliners use water injection for
takeoff and altitude establishment.....
I had a Spearco dual stage Water Injection system on my dual Cadron
set up in my 71 loaf. It worked very well right up until the micro
small injector jets would lime up from hard water or even the
smallest piece of crud. I always wondered if they ever solved that
problem. I used distilled water and still had trouble.
DM&FS
At 01:02 PM 1/30/2011, Dave Mcneely wrote:
>water injection you say? Water injection? Like in the sixties when
>all the scam shops were promoting running around with a jug of water
>draining into the carburetor? Lots of those guys ended up making
>license plates. mcneely
>---- VWBrain@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 1/30/2011 10:28:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > mcneely4@COX.NET writes:
> >
> > You say that what you have set up is electrolysis. I would agree that
> > getting enough fuel out of electrolysis aboard a vehicle is literally a
> > "fool's errand." One would (1) consume more energy than the
> fuel would deliver,
> > and (2) the batteries required would fill up the vehicle. So I am quite
> > confused as to (1) what relationship the device you have set up is to
> > what
> > the original poster is talking about, and (2) whether what the original
> > poster is talking about has much to do with reality, given that
> industry has
> > spent ages and tons of money working to come up with workable
> fuel cells for
> > application, while this guy says he is doing it in his garage and plans
> > to
> > install it on his Vanagon. Interesting ............... .
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hey guys there was a guy that had this setup in a bay window that came
> > to
> > high country campout every year. Hads it in there for years ,
> seemed to work
> > but only as an additive to the system, not for running oN competely.
> > said
> > it did increases if fuel mileage. seems like water injection would
> > probably work just about the same. bunch of guys are running the
> water injection
> > on their aircooled vannie and showing a decrease in the head temps.
> > later
> > mark d
>
>--
>David McNeely
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