Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:40:27 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: No start questions
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Scott, in his original post he mentions push-starting the Vanagon, if I
recall. I don't think you'd wanna push start an automatic. We pulled
automatics to start them, in my past, but you hadda go 35-40mph...too fast
to push.
Now if that was my vanagon, I'd have left it dirty from the camping trip
and got it running right as my first priority...What good is a clean van
that won't go? Dirty van (sometimes) that starts dependably...that is more
my style....
Don Hanson
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> hi, lol,
> re
>
> All I get from you is a three sentence response? :)
>
> I was trying to spare you from reading a long thing ,
> with too many details, or too tinged with things like ..'don't think of
> what
> part it might be first ...
> but inspect and diagnose first.'
>
> I seldom bother anymore, but I used to take the starters apart and see how
> short the brushes are ..
> how much powdery material in there from wearing brushes..how good the
> bushings are etc.
>
> oh ...btw ...be sure to inspect your starter bushing in your bell housing
> ....
> assuming manual trans.
>
> have fun, do good work .
> Scott
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B Feddish" <uprightbassghost@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: No start questions
>
>
> You can be facetious but you need to spell it right first. bwahahah
>
> You are right, | have not looked yet. It's Sunday evening and I just spent
> forever unloading and cleaning the van after another camping trip. I have
> not had a chance to climb under it yet and I am going to do that tommorow
> morning. I was just looking for some sugestions that I can have on hand
> when
> I start.
>
> From all the pmails I've recieved my goal tommorow is to 1) clean the
> battery terminals, 2) clean the connections to the starter and 3) replace
> the ignition switch. Then determine if I need a new starter. This should
> work out OK since I can try all that stuff first thing and if needed I can
> drive to the BD at 11 when they open and get a new starter.
>
> And C'mon Scott. All I get from you is a three sentence response? :) I
> know
> you're good for allot more than that!
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:19:20 -0700
>> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
>> Subject: Re: No start questions
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>
>> re
>> "don't want to spend allot of time trying figure out if a 27 year old
>> starter is having issues."
>>
>> seems it's due anyway if you really believe it is actually 27 years old.
>>
>> re
>> "Should I just start by cleaning the connections to the soleniod'
>>
>> That implies that you havn't even looked.
>>
>> There is nothing quite like a careful visual inspection for a first step.
>> Doesn't take a whole lotta time or energy ...'visual inspection' ...
>>
>> I'm being facetous ...but, believe it or not, that is the normal and best
>> first step in any automotive diagnostic process....you look at things.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "B Feddish" <uprightbassghost@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:22 PM
>> Subject: No start questions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Keeping up with my vans tradition of breaking down in my own driveway
>> after
>> another trip...
>>
>> Over the past few years the starter would take a second or two to engage
>> after turning the key. Well we know where thats leading. When I turned the
>> key to go to the store nothing happened. I pushed started it and was on my
>> way. When I returned home it started fine. OK, what to check? Should I
>> just
>> start by cleaning the connections to the soleniod or should I just go
>> ahead
>> and get a new starter and soleniod at the BD tomoorow and put it i? I
>> don't
>> want to just go and throw parts at the problem but I also don't want to
>> spend allot of time trying figure out if a 27 year old starter is having
>> issues.
>>
>> Thoughts? Looks like I'll have to work from home tommorow so I can spend
>> the morning trying to diagnose this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan =
>>
> =
>
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