Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:19:24 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Oil overfill... or not? (long post)
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Frank Garanthanner ..
brillinat rocket scinetiest type ..
shot video's inside his diesel vanagon oil pan ..
and has played with baffles inside the oil pan of his Audi turbo inline 4
gas engine in a vanagon ..
gets, way, way into it.
fascinating reading.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Hanson" <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Oil overfill... or not? (long post)
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:
>
>> My recollection, FWIW, is that the oil started frothing just above the
>> full
>> mark; the admonition being to definitely not overfill, and perhaps a bit
>> under the mark would be better than over it.
>>
>> This turned into a discussion on the lack of a plate in the engine to
>> "put
>> a
>> lid on the oil". I do not recall what the plate is called, though I'm
>> sure
>> someone else will.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> Karl Wolz
>>
>
> Oil frothing is a problem in some motors. When I raced a Porsche v8 928,
> one of the shortcomings of this motor in stock form showed in frequent
> #2/6
> main bearing failure at high sustained RPM...This was traced to, among
> other
> causes, oil frothing. One of the guys took a small camera and actually
> documented how this happened on a test mule car..
> Some oils were worse at this than others, as shown in his videos. One
> oil
> said to contain an aggressive anti-frothing agent is Amsoil. No 2-6
> bearing failures are documented with motors running this oil...small
> numerical sample, given. Lots of variables involved, too...
> Many different windage devices were tried, oil/air separators
> incorporated
> into the breather systems, etc. All specific to that motor so no use to a
> vanagon...but how about just a simple test filling with Amsoil and try
> that? See if your Oil Pressure stays up at speed. Expensive stuff that
> Amsoil and maybe just a marketing hype...but my friend's videos show it
> working and I always used it, except one time when I blew up a motor at
> Thunderhill Park while running Mobil One...just a coincidence, I am sure.
>
> Don Hanson
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