Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:09:49 -0500
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
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From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: [NVC] Pee for Fuel - no joke
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All of these great ideas, they are also very old ideas. End they don't work
because of a combination of two issues - physical processing plant size and
vehicle storage capacity, which limits distance.
Both of these issues are solved by electric. The major production facilities
& more are being put on line (coal, nuclear, wind, etc) and because
batteries convert electrical energy into chemical energy, a lot of
electricity can be stored in a relatively small space.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
Michael Sullivan
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:42 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: [NVC] Pee for Fuel - no joke
Now if we could get a vanagon to run on vinegar. Some Vanagoners are full
of pi&& and vinegar. herherher
Michael in San Antonio
91GL AT 'Gringo'
73 Beetle
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:27 AM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:
> I visited a locomotive museum in Calera, AL and saw a steam powered rail
> yard engine built before 1950 that did not generate it's own steam. It
> had a high pressure steam vessel which was filled will high pressure
> steam daily from a steam generating plant. On that steam charge it could
> run 1/2 to 3/4 of a day before having to be recharged. Similar in
> principle to a compressed air powered vehicle. The point here is that
> the principle of compressed steam or air works for driving a vehicle and
> the source does not have to be on board the engine itself. Fueling time
> is another matter. But this proves the point
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
> Roger Whittaker wrote:
>
>> dear pisser mobile
>>
>> there is a link on that page taking clickers to a popular Mechanics site
>> where compressed air powered vehicles is the discussion...
>> the image shows 2003 as the date on the concept drawing
>> the article says 2009-2010 ... delivery
>> yours
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This just amazes me. If you own a cow, you have got it made!!!
>>>
>>> Why didn't someone think of it before. It took some serious thinking
>>> outside the box to come up with this one, but it makes a lot of sense
>>> and the technology is relatively simple. It produces raw hydrogen that
>>> can be burned, and storage is simple. Fuel cells as we currently know
>>> them are not required. No high pressure super cold vessels required for
>>> storage either.
>>>
>>> This was developed at Ohio University so it's not some strange idea
>>> dreamed up in some strange land - it came from good old USA ingenuity.
>>>
>>> For more details visit here
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/07/28/your-car-and-h
ome-could-soon-be-powered-by-your-urine.aspx
>>>
>>> Or;
>>>
>>> Google for "Pee for Fuel" - all kinds of articles will pop up.
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> 88 GL Driver
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> roger w
>> >From Proverbs:
>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
>> servant who becomes king ...
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