Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:45:30 -0700
Reply-To: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: NVC: Monster Lupo
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Another interesting twin-engined thing was built for Emerson Fittipaldi to race in Brazil back in the late '70s. It was a VW beetle with two Beetle motors linked end-to-end, with the transaxle turned back-to-front and the engines in a mid-engine configuration. Essentially a flat-8 mid-engined Beetle, but more accurately a flat 4+4.
Stephen
--- On Fri, 4/3/09, Richard Golen <rgolen@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
From: Richard Golen <rgolen@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: NVC: Monster Lupo
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 8:03 AM
Lupo....Pooopo! Mini....Schminni!
The ultimate front engine/rear engine conversion, IMHO, is the Citroen 2CV Sahara. 2 cylinders up front....two cylinders in the back! A total of 48 neck snapping horsepower!! (More hp than my 56 Beetle) 694 were built by Citroen from 1958 to 1966 which makes John Cooper a copy-cat!! ;-) It even came with an optional snowplow!
http://www.supercars.net/garages/CitroenSM/4v2.html
BTW, VW Motorsport built a twin engine Mark II Golf in the late 80s to race Pike's Peak.
Ric
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:08:39 -0500
> From: uncajoel@BELLSOUTH.NET
> Subject: Re: NVC: Monster Lupo
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> > This bloke in Croatia replaced the 1.3L motor with a 24 valve VR6.
> > And then cut the floor out of the rear and plugged in another 24V
> > VR6.
>
> ha!! The Spirit still lives!! ;)
>
> 40-odd (and some of them were very odd!) years ago, John Cooper, of
> Mini-Cooper fame,
> did the same thing to a Mini. :)
> http://www.mibv.com/Mini/Misc/TwiniMini/index.htm
>
> the funny thing was, it did very well in the races, as i recall ... it
> was able to do about 100 mph ... through the curves!! as it was
> four-wheel drive. all the corvettes and ferarris and porsches would
> be downshifting like crazy to get through the curves at Daytona (the
> road course), and the little mini just went buzzing past them in the
> curves. :)
> of course, on the straights, all the performance marques just zoomed
> past the little thing ... and then promptly got passed again in the
> next series of curves. ;) it was hilarious.
> all the big cars were shifting up and down and going
> vrooooom-vroooom-vrooom ....
> and here was this little tiny car just going
> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
> all around the track.
>
> aw, well ... it was a hoot. :)
>
> unca joel
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