Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:10:53 -0800
Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Takes a darn long time for the heater to come up to speed
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B-but, where's the temp sender? When the engine is cold and the
thermostat is closed, it matters not how long the hoses are, yes no? My
wife's Subaru's temp gauge comes up quite quickly compared to Mellow
Yellow's. I reckon it's not until the engine reaches operating
temperature and the thermostat opens that the extra burden of heating
up the fluid in the hoses matters. And heck, we're only talking about
maybe 20 feet of fluid in the rad send and return hoses being the
differments between the Subi and the Vanagon. There's what -- a liter
or two of fluid being the diff?<br>
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Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
Bend, OR
KG6RCR
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On 3/5/2009 6:02 PM David Milo wrote:<br>
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id="mid_73bad2170903051802v9116352qff4d9ce37edb204e_mail_gmail_com"
cite="mid:73bad2170903051802v9116352qff4d9ce37edb204e@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">First of all, the Vanagon has a heck of a lot more coolant
to heat up; longer hose runs to the heater, etc., plus more "natural"
heat exchanging to ambient going on through those longer hoses compared
to your wife's car.<br>
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Both engines probably heat up at nearly the same rate though.<br>
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Dave<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Rocket J
Squirrel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:camping.elliott@gmail.com">camping.elliott@gmail.com</a>></span>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">My
wife's Subaru Outback's heater is ready to put out some serious<br>
therms in about 3 minutes of drive time. The temp gauge comes up<br>
quickly, whereas the temp gauge in ol' Mellow Yellow needs another 5-8<br>
minutes of driving in freezing temps to really start to creep upwards<br>
and for the heater to start doing anything interesting.<br>
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I'd like to think that the difference is due to the awesome efficiency<br>
of the WBX engine . . . I'd like to think that, but something tells me<br>
that a 2006 Subaru engine is a tad more efficient.<br>
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So, does anyone have any idea why the 1.9L engine is so sluggish<br>
compared with the Outback's engine when it comes to making hot water<br>
available to the heater core? Mrs Squirrel gripes about how long it<br>
takes to get warm air to come out the heater and I'd like to have some<br>
highly-technical answer to respond with. You know, baffle them with BS?<br>
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--<br>
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott<br>
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")<br>
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano<br>
Bend, OR<br>
KG6RCR<br>
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