Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:28:37 -0500
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From: Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Oil cooler, D-pillar, Syncro - question
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I want to install the Bus Boys oil cooler kit for the Vanagon before
summer. Anyone use one of theirs?
On 11/10/08, GMac999 <gmac999@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or another option is to use a cooler with and integrated fan and a
> thermostat. I've run them on several VW's, air-cooled that is, and they
> work great. Here' one at CB Performance,
> <http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=231>. If you do go with
> an electric fan cooler, you definitely need to get a thermostat that will
> turn it on/off so it doesn't overcool the oil,
> <http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1330>.
>
> Greg
>
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> Max Wellhouse
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> Subject: Re: Oil cooler, D-pillar, Syncro - question
>
> Man, 240 on the road and 210 in the city(where you'd think it would be
> higher) than on the open road), that';s pretty hot. I know the synthetics
> do well in high heat, but I'm pretty old school on oil temp. If I were
> you....
> 1. I'd keep the oil cooler hoses as short as possible to avoid oil pressure
> drop.
> 2. I'd keep the cooler as low as possible so the pump doesn't have to fight
> gravity and then all that extra oil overload the sump when the motor is shut
> down. You can get one way valves to keep the oil in the line, but then I'd
> also have a thermostat in line with a bypass for proper warm up of the
> motor(regardless of where you live or what time of year itis).
> 3 Our concerns about adding heat tot the fuel lines may or may not hold
> water, but ANY extra heat in the engine compartment isn't good. My
> suggestion is to build a separate inlet on the driver's side with an
> aftermarket air scoop and get a heating and cooling shop that makes custom
> duct work build you a box for the cooler to get nothing but outside
> air(yeah, you'll have to cut on the rear quarter panel, but it's more than
> worth it) so the incoming airflow goes through the scoop, then over the oil
> cooler, and then cut another hole in the horizontal surface with and exhaust
> ducting to let the hot air flow right out the back of the van. This can
> look very sanitary and will add years to your engine's life. YOu could even
> rig up an old Rabbit(or Vanagon) fan motor to kick on in town when the oil
> gets too hot, but then you're getting into some complicated stuff. In my 79
> Bay window bus with dual 44IDF Webers on it, I had this very system and my
> oil never got over 210, and that was hauling 2 canoes on top and climbing
> I-24 up that 8% grade to Sewannee Tennessee in the middle of August.
> YMMV
>
> DM&FS
>
> At 06:46 PM 11/10/2008, Luke Bakken wrote:
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>Having successfully completed my first newbie vanagon project with this
>>list's help, I thought I would move on to #2. My van has a 2.5L Subaru
>>engine in it with an oil cooler, however, I don't think the cooler is
>>located in an optimal place (up behind the left rear wheel
>>well) because on hot days the oil temp can get as high as 240 degrees
>>if I'm going on the freeway - around town the temp stays at about 210
>>degrees. I have been using synthetic oil as a precaution as well.
>>
>>What I would like to do is move the cooler to the passenger side
>>D-pillar as these two people have done:
>>
>>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/subaruvanagon/message/47107
>>
>>http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=102662
>>
>>I removed the black plastic air flow box and water trap and everything
>>looks OK except for the fact that the metal fuel pipe also runs through
>>the area at the bottom of the D-pillar (the van is a Syncro).
>>I'm wondering if the presence of an oil cooler here would radiate too
>>much heat and create a dangerous fuel situation. If so, where do other
>>Syncro owners put their oil coolers to ensure good air flow?
>>
>>And, while I'm on the subject, what brand of oil cooler do people use?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Luke
>
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