Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:53:44 -0700
Reply-To: Randal Jett <randal_jett@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Randal Jett <randal_jett@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Spare tire size?
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Scott,
To answer your question about the 1987½ vanagon, according to the 'info by model year' link at vanagon.com, "the 1987½ Wolfsburg Edition was the first Vanagon with the aero styled urethane covered bumpers. These bumpers are metalic grey and there are no matching rocker panels. This model also has body colored rear view power heated mirrors and a new ride height lowered by 1.2".
I also believe it was the first model to have a pair of snap-in removable rear-facing jump seats and pop-up table combo, later called the carat, though I'm not certain about that. It came with alloy wheels too. So, it was the first model to look like the body style and features of the last of the vanagons -- sniff, sniff .....sigh.
About your frustration with my #4 instruction -- the mail server auto-editor removed my spaces and fonts that would've made my instructions explicitly clear. Sorry about that -- now I know. I'm working on being less cranky after a long week at work, coming home to the workshop, which needs better ventilation so I don't get SMASHED with the gasoline fumes, and then I get on email and who knows what I might write when I'm in an organic chemical induced manic state before I start firing off emails -- maybe you can relate.....
Randal
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:25:00 AM
Subject: Re: Spare tire size?
All right Randal ...................
'control F' is a new one on me.
I don't know if that find box was already there or my Control F made it
appear. I see that it does.
OK,
I don't understand your # 4 insturction.
I put 'tire fits in clamshell' in the find box. Messed with 'highlight all'
and see 'phrase not found."
so I don't quite get your instructions................and
I am seeing some 'fits in stock clamshell yes'
and 'fits in modifed clamshell' on some tires.
also, no mention of which version of clamshell there. I know a 205/70 R 14
won't fit in an earlier van with the 'flat bolt tab' on the front of the
clamshell. Would be a nice refinement to add to the site.
does it just go to the tire after you write it in the find box ? there's no
'find' or 'go' button. I put in 195/75 R14 Wildcat and did end up seeing
some Les Schab tires. but not that one, So I don't get how it works yet
really.
thanks for your detailed efforts here. I just can not get what you are
saying in step 4.
but I've learned there is a find feature at roadhous,
and that control F might be a generic find thing.
I use Control C, V , and X all the time of course. And Windows Key M - that
minimizes all windows instnatly. I use to to get to desktop icons quicly.
Keyboard commands are the way, very fast. Mousing is tedious.
maybe 'highlight this phrase with the mouse fits in stock clamshell: yes"
means ...........find the phrase 'fits in stock clamshell : yes" in the tire
listings, and copy and paste those words into the find box..........
and then those tires will be highlighted - that might be what you mean.
and thanks for your great words Randal !
what makes your 97.5 Wolfsburg a 87 and a half ?
is that just by production date......
or was there a helf year model on that one ?
my 87 Wolfy is a 1/87 production date.
and interestingly - is has 'incomplet vehicle manufactured' .........two
dates, like a westy does, but a regular 7 passneger vanagon doesn't . So did
the Wolfsburg get sent out for finishing like a westy ?
******************************************************
I am working on the following vanagons for sale "
they are all very rust free, and very dent-free too. most of them anyway ,
by year ............
1982 Sunroof Diesel Vanagon. Collectible grade, near showroom condition,
very original, barely a tiny ding or two.
1983 rare, 5 speed Sunroof Diesel Vanagon. Very good condition. GL
interior. Full size sunroof.
1983 'southewest red' Westy, pretty fresh 2.1 waterboxer engine,
Recarro-like front seats. Really good paint on this one, and looks
fantastic. Near perfect tent on pop top. Hoping to get this one fully ready
soon. Refurbished throughout.
1985 hi-top Adventurewagen - interior layout improved over goofy stock set
up. Interesting 'tangerine' tan-creeme color. Very good body, Southern
California van, zero rust. Super clean iGL nterior. These high top
Adventurewagons drive aeriodynamically much better than a Westy. And they
don't feel top heavy either. That roof is really a good set up. Also very
quite inside while driving. Makes a wonderful 'Land Yacht' . 4 speed, AC,
PS, tach.
87 Wolfsburg Vanagon, silver. Z bed rear seat, Twin aft facing jump
seats..............all the goodies. Aero mirrors, etc.
86 GL, great condtion, silver. Auto trans, PS, AC, tach, Z bed rear seat
, no dents.
and a couple of 84's.........
one I call 'Yard Dog' - use it around the place for hauling stuff. 'make
offer' as they say.
and .......last one on this list ...........
a really sharp and clean 84 .........white on top, light blue on bottom.
Paint will polish out to perfection too. Just one slightly bent area on
rear roof rail -which I'll fix............and basically a perfect brown
vinyl interior. West coast van. Zero rust anywhere. Great opportunity for
someone to swap all their stuff from their rusted or dented badly 84 into
this near cheery one.
scott
www.turbovans.com
curious about that '87.5' year model on your Wolfsburg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randal Jett" <randal_jett@YAHOO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Spare tire size?
Scott,
Try searching for the text string "fits in stock clamshell: yes"
1. go to the link http://www.roadhaus.com/tires.html
2. push the ctrl button plus the "f" button simultaneously
3. the 'find' window will appear on the screen
4. highlight this phrase with the mouse fits in stock clamshell: yes
5. push the ctrl button plus the "c" button simultaneously
6. this copies the text
7. place the cursor in the 'find' window at the roadhaus link
8. push the ctrl button plus the "v" button simultaneously
9. this pastes the text into the 'find' window
10. hit enter to move to the next match -- it will scroll down the screen
showing each tire that fits in the clamshell which, as I understand the data
source, is from people who had actually used that tire in the clamshell.
Thanks for your response. I learn something new almost every time I read one
of your posts to this list or to the other vanagon groups. I am impressed,
as I have expressed once before, with the amazing time and energy you have
to put into sharing info with the vanagon community. I appreciate it. Few
can do it as well and as often as you do Scott. As far as your feedback
about being lax, it has been noted.
Randal
'85 AW
'87 Westy I-4 (for sale soon)
'87.5 Wolfsburg
----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:05:34 PM
Subject: Re: Spare tire size?
it's funny how it's so popular to answer someone's quiry by posting a link -
then they have to go digging there.
And.........the tire reviews on roadhous are GREAT .....great resournce and
great thing to see.
It's probably there, but I don't see 'fits spare tire holder'.
And ......so far, to me, there are two sizes or styles of clamshells that
hold the spare tire.
Look where the bolt goes in the front of it to hold the clamshell up.
it's either 'flat' there ( earlier vans ) or 'stepped' .....those are on
later vans that can have 205/70 R 14 tires as stock.
( see the tire lable right inside the dirver's door )
my 87 Wolfsburg ( FS, btw ) takes the 205/70 R14 tries stock......and it has
the clamshell that will take the wider tire.
of course........all tires of the same size don't have the same physical
dimentions actually.
and sometimes using a wider rim will make it difficul to get the spare to
fit.
This 87 Wolfy came with 14 inch alloys and 205/70 R14's and one of those
should fit in the spare tire holder.
not impressed with the curtness/laziness I perceive so often on lists and
groups,
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randal Jett" <randal_jett@YAHOO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Spare tire size?
> http://www.roadhaus.com/tires.html
> Look for "Fits in Stock Clamshell: Yes" comments along the left side of
> each tire size/type.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ed <fasteddy64@YAHOO.COM>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:16:11 AM
> Subject: Spare tire size?
>
> What size spare tire will fit correctly in the spare tire holder on an 87
> vanagon?
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