Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:38:22 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Reply from AT&T/BellSouth Part I
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Ever since AT&T took over Bellsouth I have had nothing but problems on
my Broad Band. for a month, I would be off line sometime during every
day, and some days I would be off line for 24 hours. As it turns out,
the AT&T merger gave AT&T the only two "Spines' in Alabama, and my cable
internet company - Charter communications - rents from AT&T. So I am
really stuck. It AT&T so much as twitches, everybody downstream
twitches. My service has always been very good with Charter and I have
to give them kudos for it, but lately it has really sucked. If this is
the case elsewhere with the merger, I can see how others would have
problems. I also have AT&T cell service - over my objections, but that
is another story - and the number of drop-outs has increased
astronomically since going AT&T. Frustrates me to death.
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Robert Fisher wrote:
> It's not limited to those .net domains listed; I talked to a tech at my ISP
> (Mediacom cable) which is mchsi.com, and he said they are essentially
> 'piggybacked' on or 'downstream' from the AT&T trunk, so anything that AT&T
> does to block spam on their networks also blocks spam on the networks of
> those that use them for their internet connection, so to speak. He said the
> site administrator could write to AT&T and ask them to remove the site from
> the blacklist, however it turns out that you have to send that email from
> another domain as you would obviously get caught in a catch-22 as your
> request email would also be treated as spam.
>
> I sent a note to Jim with this information, but I never received a reply.
>
> As I recall, I stopped getting email on my mchsi.com account shortly after
> somebody did in fact spam the list. The last day I got regular list mail on
> that account was July 27th, 2007.
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
>
> On 5/19/08, DadnotGrandad <dadnotgrandad@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Below is the letter that AT&T wants to send to Gerry. Anyone know what
>> information that Gerry is receiving from ATT&T/BellSouth? Please note that
>> AT&T considers output of Gerry to be commercial SPAM.
>>
>> John
>>
>> This page is intended for customers of any of the AT&T consumer Internet
>> services using the following domains:
>> att.net
>> ameritech.net
>> bellsouth.net flash.net
>>
>> nvbell.net pacbell.net
>> prodigy.net
>> sbcglobal.net
>>
>> snet.net
>> swbell.net
>> wans.net It is designed to initiate the process of getting messages from
>> other sending systems unblocked. Filling in the information below will allow
>> us to send an automated email to those who manage the blocked system. These
>> managers can then request an unblock from us. We act on most requests within
>> two days.
>> A copy of the message we send appears at the bottom of this page.
>> To send the email we need to know the two domains that are involved, yours
>> and that of your correspondent whose messages are being blocked. (The domain
>> is the portion of an e-mail address to the right of the "@" sign). If the
>> error message is known please include it as this will quicken the unblock
>> request. You may want to ask the sender what error message they received.
>>
>> Your domain
>> Choose One: att.net ameritech.net bellsouth.net flash.net nvbell.net
>> pacbell.net prodigy.net sbcglobal.net snet.net swbell.net wans.net
>>
>> The domain of your correspondent: [input] Error message or Non
>> Delivery Report (NDR):
>> Example of an NDR (NDR)
>> [input]
>> [input] [input]
>>
>> NOTE: Information submitted will not be saved or used in any other way.
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>> A copy of the message we send appears below:
>> Dear Postmaster:
>> We are writing to let you know that we are blocking messages addressed to
>> one of our customers [to: domain] by one of your customers at [from:
>> domain]. The stream of messages coming from your system appears to consist
>> mostly of unwanted commercial e-mail (UCE, or "spam"). To protect our system
>> and to ensure that it operates well for all of our customers, we have
>> decided to block all messages originating from your system.
>> Please consult your logs to see what might be causing this situation and
>> how it can be fixed. Then visit
>> http://worldnet.att.net/general-info/bls_info/block_admin.html to request
>> a removal of the block. Most requests for removal are honored within two
>> days.
>> The specific error message recieved by your customer was: [NDR message]
>> Thank you for your assistance in helping our respective customers
>> communicate.
>> Best regards,
>> The AT&T Mail Team.
>>
>>
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