Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:10:00 -0500
Reply-To: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
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From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject: Re: CV joint 'indicators'?
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John Muir's(the guy that wrote the first VW repair for idiots book)
description of the bad wheel bearing sound beats them all(may he rest
in peace). He called it a "ballsy rumble". CV joints to me sound
more like a clicking and or popping noise, especially on Front wheel
drive vehicles where you can massage the outer joints with the
turning CW and CCW on a smooth quiet parking lot.
YMMV
DM&FS
At 10:56 AM 4/17/2008, neil N wrote:
>It's also worth putting the rear up and turning each wheel by hand.
>
>I have no experience with a bad/going bad rear wheel bearing
>sound/symptoms but checking for that may be something to consider.
>
>Neil.
>
>On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote:
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Correction:
> > It IS vehicle speed related as well as RPM-related, I guess.
> > There is a specific 'range' (probably about
> 1500-3500rpm) where the noise
> > is more pronounced as I accelerate away...It's just difficult to say
> > exactly, but it sort of sounds like the suspension goes 'all-steel' for a
> > few seconds as the Van rocks back onto the right rear
> accelerating away from
> > a stop..That description may be a bit 'Harsh'...it's not really that loud
> > (yet?) but more of a faint.."RRrr, Rrr,, rrr..rr..r..." as I pull out onto
> > busy highways...I have not noticed it going uphill on twisty roads or
> > crawling along backcountry trails.
> >
> > A quiet large paved lot is a good idea, I'll try that..
> >
> > Don Hanson
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "neil N" <musomuso@gmail.com>
> > To: "Don Hanson" <dhanson@gorge.net>
> > Cc: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: CV joint 'indicators'?
> >
> >
> > > Try driving in circles CCW and CW in a parking lot. Get a helper to
> > > listen out the PS window to compare notes. (which side is it coming
> > > from?)
> > >
> > > CV sounds should be related to vehicle speed, not RPM's. If it's
> > > related to RPM's, then it is likely something else.
> > >
> > > Neil.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Maybe I'm hearing things...
> > > >
> > > > But, it seems when I accelerate away from a stop while turning left,
> > my 84
> > > > 5sp manual makes a little extra noise from the rear area. It's an
> > > > RPM-related noise that increases in "tempo" as the RPMs increase. It
> > seems
> > > > to diminish, then go away as I get moving, and it only seems to occur
> > when
> > > > I'm accelerating more vigorously than I usually do.. I may be
> > imagining
> > > > that this sound seems to be slowly getting louder..There has always,
> > since
> > > > I've had the van, been a little noise..I've thought it normal for
> > > > vanagons...but now, since nothing has broken with my van for a few
> > months..I
> > > > am thinking it's "time" I have not ever serviced the CV
> joints, but I
> > have
> > > > checked the wheel bearings and re-freshed the transmission oil plus
> > checked
> > > > brake shoes, etc..
> > > > Can anyone suggest a simple way to check on the condition of my CV
> > joints,
> > > > like maybe jack up and run in gear, or tug on the wheel or whatever?
> > > > Or should I just drive the sucker till it breaks and not worry so
> > much?
> > > >
> > > > Don Hanson
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> > >
> > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>--
>Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
>
>http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
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