Date:         Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:04:05 -0400
Reply-To:     craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Using electricity to produce hydrogen gas to lower my gas
              cost - is this for real?>
Comments: To: thegebhard@charter.net
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What's the big deal about Snake Oil? It's just the result of squeezed snakes
right? I mean, who amongst us doesn't believe in or hasn't used Baby Oil?
Same concept.

I believe snake oil to be real, and possibly contain the meaning of life.
But its not friday yet......

-Craig
'85Gl

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:54 AM, James Gebhard <thegebhard@charter.net>
wrote:

> ---- Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ> wrote:
> > >For us Vanagon driver's trying to deal with the $3.25++++/gal. gas
> > >prices, is there anything worth considering in these small hydrogen
> > >producing units that go under a hood and operate as described below:
> > >
> > >What the motor can run on is a combination of Hydrogen and regular
> > >fuel (Gas / Petrol / Diesel). Basically water is made up of Hydrogen
> > >and Oxygen, the Hydrogen Unit runs a small electrical charge through
> > >the water to separate the 2 and creates a gas known as HHO (also
> > >referred to as Browns Gas), this gas is directed by a fuel line into
> > >your existing carburetor or fuel Injection. The hydrogen then
> > >combines with the regular fuel to run the motor while at the same
> > >time reducing the reliance on the regular fuel
> > >
> > >If no, that's what I expected.....
> > >If yes, then why aren't we all doing this & has anyone ever done
> > >this to a 18-20 mpg Vanagon?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Larry
> > >Ga.
> >
> > Aag!! You shouldn't even be asking about this. SNAKE OIL. There are
> > no magic fuels for cars. Gasoline. Distillate. Ethanol (or other
> > simple alcohols such as methanol and propanol). Kerosene, turpentine.
> > Propene, ethane, methane. Any organic liquid compound (hydrocarbon)
> > that burns easily but doesn't evaporate volatilely (making acetone
> > difficult to use, though I've done it). Compressed hydrogen.
> > Electricity (which has to be generated somewhere, often using fuels).
> > Nothing else. Not power from ley-lines, no water power...
> > --
> > Andrew Grebneff
> > Dunedin
> > New Zealand
> > Fossil preparator
> > Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
> > ‚ Opinions stated are mine, not those of Otago University
> > "There is water at the bottom of the ocean"  - Talking Heads
>
> Look up Stan Meyers website and HHO on youtube or look at Hydrogen garage.
> My son and I are building a HHO generator for science project.
> I plan to try it in my Ranger. If it works as claimed ,we will be putting
> one in our vanagon.
>  Looks doable
>