Date:         Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:31:37 -0800
Reply-To:     Geordie Birch <geordie@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Geordie Birch <geordie@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: No emails!!!
In-Reply-To:  <47AE25C2.8040003@gmail.com>
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Gmail seems to have no problem keeping up to massive volumes of mail -
when I first got my acc't I wanted to see what would happen if I hit
the (then) two gig quota so I signed up to the Linux Kernel Mailing
List and the Debian User list.  No problems, and no leakage into my
inbox.  (I finally maxed it out a year ago - gmail wouldn't let me
send mail until I deleted something.)

Geordie.

On 2/9/08, Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about gmail -- my list messages cut off for more than 24 hours earlier
> this week (but not non-gerry messages), lurched forward and caught up,
> slowly passed on smatterings of older messages, cut off, re-started, and
> maybe seems to be working fine now for gerry stuff. Other gmail users have
> reported the same thing -- again, no problem with non-gerry messages.
>
> When this happened last year Jim Arnott took a look and found that some
> logfiles -- or maybe it was gerry's gutters? -- needed cleaning. Once they
> were cleaned, things returned to normal. Didn't improve the /quality/ of
> gerry traffic, but traffic was back up to speed. I don't know if Jim can
> do anything about the quality thing. I know I'm not helping.
>
> --
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2008 1:39 PM John Goubeaux wrote:
>
> > If you are talking specifically about delays for mail destined for yahoo
> > accounts i can confirm that yahoo is "rate limiting" mail to it's users
> > (throttling back connections) likely for antispam reasons.
> >
> > I manage a large mail system for the U of California and I have seen
> > delays for mail destined to yahoo for months now. Usually it stays in
> > our queues for hours, not days, and eventually gets delivered. Whomever
> > has access to the mail exchanger that the gerry list sends through
> > should be able to confirm if this is happening.
> >
> > -john
> >
> > Mike S wrote:
> >> At 03:16 PM 2/9/2008, Michael Sullivan wrote...
> >> Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> This is a GREAT example of log jam from Gerry.
> >> What make you think it is Gerry? I already pointed out to you that
> >> Gerry didn't seem to be delaying email when you complained yesterday.
> >> It may be that yahoo has internal processing delays, or may be
> >> throttling email receipts or that one or more of their inbound mail
> >> servers is malfunctioning. Yahoo has 7 MX records (mail servers), and
> >> some of those resolve to multiple IP addresses. If one is
> >> malfunctioning, and doesn't accept mail from Gerry for some reason,
> >> Gerry will properly back off before retrying. Gerry runs qmail, so for
> >> a message delivered after 2 days and 1 hour, that would have been the
> >> 22nd delivery attempt.
> >> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#retry-schedule
> >>
> >> You can't just blame Gerry for delayed email - at least look at the
> >> headers and see when it was received by yahoo from gerry.
> >>
> >> I received the email from Gerry about 6 minutes after you sent it.
> >> Relevant headers:
> >>
> >>> Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([71.126.148.6])
> >>> by box261.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68)
> >>> (envelope-from <owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>)
> >>> id 1JNA7O-00047c-RZ
> >>> for mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:00:58 -0700
> >>> Received: from web52103.mail.re2.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP
> >>> for
> >>> Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
> >>> <0.0029F3BA@gerry.vanagon.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:54:17 -0500
>