Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:49:52 -0800
Reply-To: Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: No emails!!!
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Nor have I. This issue started on Wednesday or Thursday (I posted
something about that day). The previous blackout was many months prior to
that, possibly even as far back as last spring.
--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
KG6RCR
On 2/9/2008 3:10 PM Kim Brennan wrote:
> I haven't had a single issue with delays from Gerry in several months.
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Michael Elliott wrote:
>
>> How about gmail -- my list messages cut off for more than 24 hours
>> earlier
>> this week (but not non-gerry messages), lurched forward and caught up,
>> slowly passed on smatterings of older messages, cut off, re-started,
>> and
>> maybe seems to be working fine now for gerry stuff. Other gmail
>> users have
>> reported the same thing -- again, no problem with non-gerry messages.
>>
>> When this happened last year Jim Arnott took a look and found that
>> some
>> logfiles -- or maybe it was gerry's gutters? -- needed cleaning.
>> Once they
>> were cleaned, things returned to normal. Didn't improve the /
>> quality/ of
>> gerry traffic, but traffic was back up to speed. I don't know if Jim
>> can
>> do anything about the quality thing. I know I'm not helping.
>>
>> --
>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
>> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
>> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
>> KG6RCR
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2008 1:39 PM John Goubeaux wrote:
>>
>>> If you are talking specifically about delays for mail destined for
>>> yahoo
>>> accounts i can confirm that yahoo is "rate limiting" mail to it's
>>> users
>>> (throttling back connections) likely for antispam reasons.
>>>
>>> I manage a large mail system for the U of California and I have seen
>>> delays for mail destined to yahoo for months now. Usually it stays in
>>> our queues for hours, not days, and eventually gets delivered.
>>> Whomever
>>> has access to the mail exchanger that the gerry list sends through
>>> should be able to confirm if this is happening.
>>>
>>> -john
>>>
>>> Mike S wrote:
>>>> At 03:16 PM 2/9/2008, Michael Sullivan wrote...
>>>> Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> This is a GREAT example of log jam from Gerry.
>>>> What make you think it is Gerry? I already pointed out to you that
>>>> Gerry didn't seem to be delaying email when you complained
>>>> yesterday.
>>>> It may be that yahoo has internal processing delays, or may be
>>>> throttling email receipts or that one or more of their inbound mail
>>>> servers is malfunctioning. Yahoo has 7 MX records (mail servers),
>>>> and
>>>> some of those resolve to multiple IP addresses. If one is
>>>> malfunctioning, and doesn't accept mail from Gerry for some reason,
>>>> Gerry will properly back off before retrying. Gerry runs qmail, so
>>>> for
>>>> a message delivered after 2 days and 1 hour, that would have been
>>>> the
>>>> 22nd delivery attempt.
>>>> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#retry-schedule
>>>>
>>>> You can't just blame Gerry for delayed email - at least look at the
>>>> headers and see when it was received by yahoo from gerry.
>>>>
>>>> I received the email from Gerry about 6 minutes after you sent it.
>>>> Relevant headers:
>>>>
>>>>> Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([71.126.148.6])
>>>>> by box261.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68)
>>>>> (envelope-from <owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>)
>>>>> id 1JNA7O-00047c-RZ
>>>>> for mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:00:58 -0700
>>>>> Received: from web52103.mail.re2.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com
>>>>> (LSMTP
>>>>> for
>>>>> Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
>>>>> <0.0029F3BA@gerry.vanagon.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:54:17 -0500
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