Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:10:34 -0500
Reply-To: Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: No emails!!!
In-Reply-To: <47AE25C2.8040003@gmail.com>
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I haven't had a single issue with delays from Gerry in several months.
On Feb 9, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Michael Elliott wrote:
> How about gmail -- my list messages cut off for more than 24 hours
> earlier
> this week (but not non-gerry messages), lurched forward and caught up,
> slowly passed on smatterings of older messages, cut off, re-started,
> and
> maybe seems to be working fine now for gerry stuff. Other gmail
> users have
> reported the same thing -- again, no problem with non-gerry messages.
>
> When this happened last year Jim Arnott took a look and found that
> some
> logfiles -- or maybe it was gerry's gutters? -- needed cleaning.
> Once they
> were cleaned, things returned to normal. Didn't improve the /
> quality/ of
> gerry traffic, but traffic was back up to speed. I don't know if Jim
> can
> do anything about the quality thing. I know I'm not helping.
>
> --
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2008 1:39 PM John Goubeaux wrote:
>
>> If you are talking specifically about delays for mail destined for
>> yahoo
>> accounts i can confirm that yahoo is "rate limiting" mail to it's
>> users
>> (throttling back connections) likely for antispam reasons.
>>
>> I manage a large mail system for the U of California and I have seen
>> delays for mail destined to yahoo for months now. Usually it stays in
>> our queues for hours, not days, and eventually gets delivered.
>> Whomever
>> has access to the mail exchanger that the gerry list sends through
>> should be able to confirm if this is happening.
>>
>> -john
>>
>> Mike S wrote:
>>> At 03:16 PM 2/9/2008, Michael Sullivan wrote...
>>> Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> This is a GREAT example of log jam from Gerry.
>>> What make you think it is Gerry? I already pointed out to you that
>>> Gerry didn't seem to be delaying email when you complained
>>> yesterday.
>>> It may be that yahoo has internal processing delays, or may be
>>> throttling email receipts or that one or more of their inbound mail
>>> servers is malfunctioning. Yahoo has 7 MX records (mail servers),
>>> and
>>> some of those resolve to multiple IP addresses. If one is
>>> malfunctioning, and doesn't accept mail from Gerry for some reason,
>>> Gerry will properly back off before retrying. Gerry runs qmail, so
>>> for
>>> a message delivered after 2 days and 1 hour, that would have been
>>> the
>>> 22nd delivery attempt.
>>> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#retry-schedule
>>>
>>> You can't just blame Gerry for delayed email - at least look at the
>>> headers and see when it was received by yahoo from gerry.
>>>
>>> I received the email from Gerry about 6 minutes after you sent it.
>>> Relevant headers:
>>>
>>>> Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([71.126.148.6])
>>>> by box261.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68)
>>>> (envelope-from <owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>)
>>>> id 1JNA7O-00047c-RZ
>>>> for mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:00:58 -0700
>>>> Received: from web52103.mail.re2.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com
>>>> (LSMTP
>>>> for
>>>> Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
>>>> <0.0029F3BA@gerry.vanagon.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:54:17 -0500
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