Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:14:26 -0800
Reply-To: Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: No emails!!!
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How about gmail -- my list messages cut off for more than 24 hours earlier
this week (but not non-gerry messages), lurched forward and caught up,
slowly passed on smatterings of older messages, cut off, re-started, and
maybe seems to be working fine now for gerry stuff. Other gmail users have
reported the same thing -- again, no problem with non-gerry messages.
When this happened last year Jim Arnott took a look and found that some
logfiles -- or maybe it was gerry's gutters? -- needed cleaning. Once they
were cleaned, things returned to normal. Didn't improve the /quality/ of
gerry traffic, but traffic was back up to speed. I don't know if Jim can
do anything about the quality thing. I know I'm not helping.
--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
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KG6RCR
On 2/9/2008 1:39 PM John Goubeaux wrote:
> If you are talking specifically about delays for mail destined for yahoo
> accounts i can confirm that yahoo is "rate limiting" mail to it's users
> (throttling back connections) likely for antispam reasons.
>
> I manage a large mail system for the U of California and I have seen
> delays for mail destined to yahoo for months now. Usually it stays in
> our queues for hours, not days, and eventually gets delivered. Whomever
> has access to the mail exchanger that the gerry list sends through
> should be able to confirm if this is happening.
>
> -john
>
> Mike S wrote:
>> At 03:16 PM 2/9/2008, Michael Sullivan wrote...
>> Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> This is a GREAT example of log jam from Gerry.
>> What make you think it is Gerry? I already pointed out to you that
>> Gerry didn't seem to be delaying email when you complained yesterday.
>> It may be that yahoo has internal processing delays, or may be
>> throttling email receipts or that one or more of their inbound mail
>> servers is malfunctioning. Yahoo has 7 MX records (mail servers), and
>> some of those resolve to multiple IP addresses. If one is
>> malfunctioning, and doesn't accept mail from Gerry for some reason,
>> Gerry will properly back off before retrying. Gerry runs qmail, so for
>> a message delivered after 2 days and 1 hour, that would have been the
>> 22nd delivery attempt.
>> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#retry-schedule
>>
>> You can't just blame Gerry for delayed email - at least look at the
>> headers and see when it was received by yahoo from gerry.
>>
>> I received the email from Gerry about 6 minutes after you sent it.
>> Relevant headers:
>>
>>> Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([71.126.148.6])
>>> by box261.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68)
>>> (envelope-from <owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>)
>>> id 1JNA7O-00047c-RZ
>>> for mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:00:58 -0700
>>> Received: from web52103.mail.re2.yahoo.com by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP
>>> for
>>> Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id
>>> <0.0029F3BA@gerry.vanagon.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:54:17 -0500
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