Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:52:28 -0800
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: New VW Rotten Unvieled // TDI?
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dear and andrew
with all due respect ...
whale blubber is not biodiesel
biodesiel is a high bred mixture of chemically introduced food stuffs oils
... like corn oil ...
there are polymers or plasticizes in the mix that allow it to remain plastic
and flowable yet non-congealing
whale blubber is pure fat ... and in fact would make excellent diesel fuel
right out of the whale
with out further processing aside from heating
and even though i live with in spitting distance of Blubber Bay, Texada
Island and with in a few hours boat ride of Whaletown, Cortez Island
(both named for the huge amount of whaling in the strait of georgia some
100+ years ago)
I will not be attempting to land any of our aquatic mammalian brothers
simply to go to the store for more walmart stuff ...
having said that ... i also grew up with lots of cow ... er... s**t on my
boots and have on many occasions
been party to the operation of a separator where by milk was run through a
series of cones on a centrifugal force basis and the lighter cream (read
fat)
was separated and kept in a separate can which was picked up by a dairy and
turned into BUTTER ...
which is ... are you ready for it ... 100% FAT ...
You can experiment with this at home if you dont believe me but i have it on
pretty good authority that butter heated on a stove will become a fire ...
fire +confined space(cylinder of internal combustion engine) = energy and
energy + drive train = smooth running vanagon
so running a diesel on milk is not at all a stretch ... indeed it is a
probable reality
thank goodness it is friday
yours
On Feb 8, 2008 12:17 AM, Andrew Grebneff <
andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
> >I hate to ask, but for the last 5 years I've been puzzled by the
> >fascination with the TDI or NA/Diesel for that matter. Some folks
> >would buy a vehicle because it had a V6 TDI? Why? Is it it a
> >philosophy or facts? When it hits -15 below zero I've seen a few of
> >those Dodge MB sprinters sitting in the driveways with their hoods
> >up not starting. Diesel is 35 cents more a gallon than gas. What am
> >I missing? Maybe if I have to ask I'll never understand...
> >
> >when that time comes the diesel engine will run on anything that has a
> fat
> >content ...
>
> Not quite. Whale blubber anyone? Now, THAT's biodiesel!
>
> >indeed i even have a friend who claims to have run a stationary diesel on
> >milk ..
>
> Tell him to pull the other one. Milk's 99.99% water.
>
> >Diesels ... hmmm almost an aphrodisiac ...
>
> Er... perhaps for some.
>
> Diesels have attractions for economy, whether the fuel is cheaper
> than gas (as it is here in NZ) or just for kilometerage.
>
> It is only of benefit if either of the above is subsatantial. Diesel
> maintenance costs may be higher than gas engines (older diesels had
> about 5000km filter/oilchange interval). The exhaust is messy and the
> oil is horrid stuff once used... stains everything it touches
> pitch-black.
>
> At least, with Renault's new particulate-filter/flashburn technology,
> sooty exhaust will become a thing of the past with new diesels, once
> other manufacturers take it up or design their own setups.
>
> Performance is well down on gas engines. The trens to turbodiesels
> gives much better performance (as I can attest after changing my
> Corolla from NA 1.8D to 2.0TD). BUT this also comes at a cost...
> turbo seals do fail, heads do crack and the supercharging causes
> messy blowby even on healthy diesel engines. And turbodiesels DO use
> more fuel than NA versions of the same engine (the injectors are
> larger-capacity to prevent excessive leanness).
>
> As to small 6-cylinder diesels, they are a waste of time. A four of
> the same capacity will develop much more torque, which is why the
> Japanese (with a temporary aberration by Nissan in the 70s to early
> 90s with tits awful LD28s & RD28s) use fours up to almost 4 liters.
> The fours are also much easier (and therefore cheaper) to work on...
> and if major repairs are needed, will cost less for parts (fewer
> bearings, pistons, ringsets etc). Granted that diesel fours don't
> sound as good as sixes, but what the heck.
>
> I recently saw a webpage where someone had installed a Toyota Estima
> supercharger on a 2C-T in a Corona. Being a Roots-type, I doubt that
> it would help with the head-cracking problem, as these chargers
> develop a lot of heat.
>
> Here in NZ the the local organized crime ring (government) is going
> the opposite way to the rest of the world. The gummint is trying to
> get diesels off the road because of "health issues". So yearly
> registration of diesels is higher than that of gas cars; there is a
> roaduser tax (supposedly for repair of roads damaged by big trucks,
> but in politics anything that can be gotten away with will be) by
> kilometer on diesel cars (so a lot of diesel cars spend much time
> with the speedo disconnected... not mine, though) and import of used
> diesels, even trucks, from Japan has been stopped. The fact that
> diesel fuel is less than gas still makes small diesels cheaper to run
> than gas cars, but the break-even point is being approached. Which is
> why I'm considering getting a written-off late-90s FWD or 4WD Corolla
> wagon and fitting a 3V Toyota V6 to it.
>
> Now, if they can build car diesels to run on alcohols...
> --
> Andrew Grebneff
> Dunedin
> New Zealand
> Fossil preparator
> Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
> ‚ Opinions stated are mine, not those of Otago University
> "There is water at the bottom of the ocean" - Talking Heads
>
--
roger w
There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
Picking up garbage and telling people things.
Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
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