Date:         Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:35:55 -0800
Reply-To:     Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: RE-READ re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...??? - LILLEY???
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One of the things thats constant is change..


Joe
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@YAHOO.COM>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2008 2:21 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Fwd: RE-READ re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...??? - LILLEY???
>
>Not sure what to call you...Do we have to be anonymous?
>
>***************** <vw4x4@VERIZON.NET> wrote:  Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:15:52 -0500
>From: ***************** <vw4x4@VERIZON.NET>
>Subject: RE-READ re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...??? - LILLEY???
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>"Change is not always for the best "
>Thank you very much Bob.... It could not have been
>said
>better........... especially with the Lilley motor... I've contended this
>from the get go..... The entire list needs to RE-read this post
>every morning along with the daily prayers.........You the man!!
>
>
>Bob Donalds wrote:
>
>> Robert and I spent allot of time on the phone and emails over the years
>> but we did not share allot of the same ideas
>> I have not been one for ratio rockers and Ceramic coatings
>> Robert did try allot of different possibilities
>> My engines are closer to stock and I am not a fan of higher compression
>> ratios and larger pistons
>> The Blue engine posted earlier in this thread had very little left
>> that was
>> stock even the rods had been replaced by some unknown to me brand WHY?
>> I think the stock Rod when rebuilt properly is hard to outdue
>> Same for the cam no aftermarket cam I know of works as well over all
>> as the
>> stock 2.1 cam
>> Oil pumps heck give me a nice stock WBX pump right from the factory
>> used but
>> not abused it fits the case tighter and makes oil pressure as well if not
>> better than any aftermarket unit out there
>>
>> Change is not always for the best
>> I spent allot of time on the dyno as a kid with the old 40 hp engines.
>> the
>> dyno does not lie many of the changes I made did not make more but less
>> power. I always learned something every time at the track and on the dyno
>>
>> B Bob
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Rodgers"
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...??? - LILLEY???
>>
>>
>>> I think Bob Donalds and Robert Lilley collaborated some on that engine.
>>> I think that Bob still applies some of the principles to engines he
>>> rebuilds today and will apply them to your engine on your request.
>>> Something to talk to him about anyway.
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> 88 GL driver
>>>
>>> Chris S. wrote:
>>>
>>>> That reminds me... has anyone done the mythical Lilley-WBX build up?
>>>>
>>>> Chris S.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: TC
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:47:48 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good New Year's Eve Morning!
>>>>> With 150k miles, it doesn't seem to make sense to pull the engine and
>>>>> replace the gaskets or heads. So the question is what is the best
>>>>> replacement engine out there? I really don't want to spend big bucks
>>>>> on a Tiico, TDI, or Bostig conversion, so that pretty much leaves a
>>>>> rebuilt wasserboxer. Of course, all of the websites for the
>>>>> rebuilders state their's is the best (and ok, I'm leaning toward a
>>>>> Boston Bob engine), what's the consensus out there? What are your
>>>>> experiences - good and/or bad with AVP, GEX, and Boston Bob.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> right now Id say this is your best bet for a rebuilt wbx
>>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=514460
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
>
>Thanks, Michael Sullivan


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