Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:15:52 -0500
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Subject: RE-READ re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...??? - LILLEY???
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"Change is not always for the best "
Thank you very much Bob.... It could not have been
said
better........... especially with the Lilley motor... I've contended this
from the get go..... The entire list needs to RE-read this post
every morning along with the daily prayers.........You the man!!
Bob Donalds wrote:
> Robert and I spent allot of time on the phone and emails over the years
> but we did not share allot of the same ideas
> I have not been one for ratio rockers and Ceramic coatings
> Robert did try allot of different possibilities
> My engines are closer to stock and I am not a fan of higher compression
> ratios and larger pistons
> The Blue engine posted earlier in this thread had very little left
> that was
> stock even the rods had been replaced by some unknown to me brand WHY?
> I think the stock Rod when rebuilt properly is hard to outdue
> Same for the cam no aftermarket cam I know of works as well over all
> as the
> stock 2.1 cam
> Oil pumps heck give me a nice stock WBX pump right from the factory
> used but
> not abused it fits the case tighter and makes oil pressure as well if not
> better than any aftermarket unit out there
>
> Change is not always for the best
> I spent allot of time on the dyno as a kid with the old 40 hp engines.
> the
> dyno does not lie many of the changes I made did not make more but less
> power. I always learned something every time at the track and on the dyno
>
> B Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...??? - LILLEY???
>
>
>> I think Bob Donalds and Robert Lilley collaborated some on that engine.
>> I think that Bob still applies some of the principles to engines he
>> rebuilds today and will apply them to your engine on your request.
>> Something to talk to him about anyway.
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> 88 GL driver
>>
>> Chris S. wrote:
>>
>>> That reminds me... has anyone done the mythical Lilley-WBX build up?
>>>
>>> Chris S.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:47:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Boston Bob....AVP....GEX...???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good New Year's Eve Morning!
>>>> With 150k miles, it doesn't seem to make sense to pull the engine and
>>>> replace the gaskets or heads. So the question is what is the best
>>>> replacement engine out there? I really don't want to spend big bucks
>>>> on a Tiico, TDI, or Bostig conversion, so that pretty much leaves a
>>>> rebuilt wasserboxer. Of course, all of the websites for the
>>>> rebuilders state their's is the best (and ok, I'm leaning toward a
>>>> Boston Bob engine), what's the consensus out there? What are your
>>>> experiences - good and/or bad with AVP, GEX, and Boston Bob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> right now Id say this is your best bet for a rebuilt wbx
>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=514460
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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