Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:09:25 -0500
Reply-To: Geza Polony <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Geza Polony <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: headlights on with ignition on!
Shawn,
Yes, but that's what makes this site so cool. There are plenty of automotive
sites that limit participation strictly to mechanical issues, but how much
fun are they? I think of this site like a bar, a la Cheers, where everybody
happens to have a Vanagon and sits around shooting the bull about it, and if
the discussion happens to veer off into salt water fuels or urban legends or
international politics, there's always a friendly moderator to whack us on
the collective head. Personally I like the off-topic stuff, the tangents,
the barbs and all the rest. Give me an IPA, a pool cue, and let's talk about
that fuel pump buzzing...
Geza
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:11:32 -0500, robert feller
<syncro.carboncow@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>Man this list takes the word tangent to a new level!
>
>How did we get from me inquiring about an obvious hack I can disable to
>headlights consuming .25mpg and killing the ozone? jeesh!
>
>Shawn
>
>On Dec 14, 2007 7:49 PM, tom ring <taring@taring.org> wrote:
>
>> On 14 Dec 2007 at 17:32, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > All good thoughts. Re the safety or not factor, and fuel consumption.
>> > In some states it's technically illegal to drive with just
>> parking/running
>> > lights on, I believe.
>> > I wouldn't do it for the attention it might attract from cops.
>>
>> Interesting. I've had it set up that way for 5 years and driven through
>> about
>> 15 states on a regular basis. No problems so far. I think it might be
>> one of
>> those things that police would only use as an excuse if they had no other
>> reason to pull you over and wanted to. And now there so many vehicles
>> with
>> DRLs, you are probably pretty much psychologically invisible to them.
>> Even if
>> you got pulled over it's probably a very cheap ticket or just a warning.
>> I
>> could justifiably say that they used to work and now don't for some
>> reason. ;)
>>
>> tom
>> K0TAR
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > tom ring
>> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:13 PM
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Subject: Re: headlights on with ignition on!
>> >
>> > Yes, DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) can be argued to be a bit safer than
>> not
>> > having them. There is also a lot of evidence that they do nothing or
>> almost
>> > nothing. They definately use millions of gallons of extra fuel per year
>> > from
>> > the .25 to .5 mpg hit. And makes that much extra CO2. You are free to
>> > choose
>> > your poison, at least in the US.
>> >
>> > Here's a place that tells how to shut them down on many vehicles. I did
>> it
>> > on
>> > my 96 Jetta. It turned off the headlights, but not the running lights,
>> > which
>> > seems to be a good compromise to me, especially since it's less likely
>> to
>> > leave
>> > me with a burned out headlight at night, which is most definitely a
>> safety
>> > hazard.
>> >
>> > http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
>> >
>> > The only VW van mentioned is 2000-2002 Eurovan.
>> >
>> > tom
>> > K0TAR
>> >
>> > On 14 Dec 2007 at 16:29, robert feller wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------
>> > Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
>> > 85 Westphalia GL Albert
>> > 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
>> > taring@taring.org
>> >
>> > What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic
>> > simulations
>> > involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it
>> > will
>> > be pretty bad.
>> > - Dave Barry
>> > -----------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Shawn Feller
>Ohio
>www.carboncow.com
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