Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:18:54 -0800
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
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Please guys, there's no need for the name-calling either. Let it go
peacefully.
On Dec 8, 2007 4:49 PM, Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:
> I did not bring up the topic of suppressed alternative fuels, I commented
> that this was part of a larger pattern which drew the "tin foil hat"
> characterizations, and yes that pisses me off.
>
>
>
> But your right, lets all stay ignorant and lets keep the list pure.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jake de Villiers [mailto:crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:43 PM
> *To:* Leslie Schwartz
> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
>
>
>
> All of which goes to show once again why we DO NOT DISCUSS POLITICS ON
> THIS LIST. Religion too, while we're here.
>
> Just Vanagons please, and directly related topics.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Dec 8, 2007 4:28 PM, Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> Not a she, not nuts just sick and tired of the empty headed and
> irresponsible no-nothing attitudes which make these events happen
> over and over again.
>
> Go back to sleep, watch some more TV, your hopeless.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> tom ring
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:03 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
>
> Yeah, she sent me a "private" (with a copy to something called the New
> Democrats) wacked out message also complaining that I was ignoring the
> death of millions and that Tesla was screwed by unknown
> plotters, and that the Bush family, the Masons and others were behind
> everything else bad in the world.
>
> She's just nuts. Nothing to worry about if you don't have to listen to
> her I suppose.
>
> tom
> K0TAR
>
> On 8 Dec 2007 at 16:19, Leslie Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Does not merit a public response, sent privately.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > Behalf Of VW Doka
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:42 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > And just when did I joke about policies that end up killing millions of
> people?
> >
> > Get your facts straight before you start accusing people. It looks to
> me that you're just as bad as those you rail against.
> >
> > The real joke is you...
> >
> > Sorry for WOB people. I will no longer respond to this loser on the
> list.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie Schwartz [mailto: lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 1:05 PM
> > To: 'VW Doka'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: RE: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > I respect skepticism, but I do not respect jokes made about policies
> > that end up killing millions of people and I am not going to just let
> something like that pass un-responded to. That is how my
> personal morality works.
> >
> > Chill out yourself, Go back to you TV, everything is fine, there is no
> > dark spot on your soul, there is nothing in this realm you are
> responsible for. Ignorance Is Strength.
> >
> > Keep the jokes coming.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > Behalf Of VW Doka
> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 2:41 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > Dude, chill out. How did a joke about Yull Brown and the supposed
> conspiracy against him turn into a discussion about genocide?
> >
> > Take a pill, a beer, or whatever you need to calm down...
> >
> > Perhaps a camping trip in your Westy to solitary location for deep,
> meaningful meditation? Whatever stabilizes your mood....
> >
> > BTW: Your tank of Brown's Gas is ready.
> >
> >
> > Happy Post-Frydaye,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie H Schwartz [mailto: lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:28 PM
> > To: VW Doka
> > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > Yep, knew it was coming, the UFOs at area 51 ... decades of disinfo
> > campaigns have people compulsively equating any conspiracy truth with
> non-sense, and making a joke of it. He He. Even when
> millions die over the effects of the policies. I'm laughin'!
> > Hundreds of countries are in the grip of these international murders who
> have things just the way they want it, including
> genocide.
> > Hey, but I'm up for some more jokes about it.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 4:10:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of an international
> > conspiracy. You know... all the countries plotting against one poor
> > intellectual. None of them daring break the agreement regardless of
> how it
> > might help their plight. Perfectly plausible.
> >
> > Of course, it would be much simpler if the government would just
> release the
> > technology they acquired from all those crashed UFOs stored at Area
> 51...
> >
> > Happy Frydaye,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie H Schwartz [mailto: lhs_emf@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:42 PM
> > To: VW Doka; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > Yes, the US is not ruled by an oiligarchy and does not start wars
> based on
> > self inflicted false flag attacks on its own citizens, to provide
> public
> > reasons for wars of aggression to steal the resources of other
> nations,
> > killing millions of innocent incidentally people as "collateral
> damage",
> > never happened.
> >
> > And Tesla, another energy pioneer, was not robbed blind or murdered
> by the
> > same crime families who made their fortune financing the Third Reich.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 3:25:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> > I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but... oh wait... I forgot
> it's
> > friday.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com ]On
> Behalf
> > Of Paul N. Oliver
> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:58 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > Dr. Yull Brown came to the US in the mid 70's because of the "oil
> embargo"
> > with his car that ran on water. Shortly after getting in touch with
> > government officials he showed and fully explained how it work only
> to be
> > arrested and jailed. It had always been his goal to escape the USSR
> and
> > come
> > to "America" land of the free, to find it no different than the
> oppressive
> > government he'd left behind.
> >
> > When released, he left the US intending never to return, it was in
> > Australia
> > that he went to next and did many great discoveries for the use of
> "Browns
> > Gas." It was through a group of investors from US and Canada that he
> was
> > encouraged to give America another chance. This was in the 90's and
> he was
> > getting up in age and starting to have some health problems (cancer)
> when
> > it
> > was learned that he had developed a way to neutralize nuclear waste,
> that
> > many business men did everything to gain this technology. But before
> > anything really came of it he passed away from cancer.
> >
> > Many on the internet claim to know his secrets, some do as with our
> group
> > many of us know much of his work but to the best of my knowledge he
> never
> > fully disclosed how nuclear waste could be made harmless, he did
> tell me
> > enough that given the resources I believe I figure it out.
> >
> > I have heard all the insults that how could "I" know more than the
> most
> > brilliant minds of the world did not know! It's very simple, no
> matter
> > what
> > our government says, it never wants anyone to have the ability to
> > neutralize
> > nuclear waste; 1) The taxpayers of the USA pay 400 billion dollars a
> year
> > to
> > store nuclear waste, this is easy big business a real cash cow that
> those
> > who have don't want to lose. 2) Once it is understood that nuclear
> waste
> > can
> > be made safe, countries will not fear to use nuclear weapons.
> >
> > Our company could only get China to build Browns Gas generators of
> which I
> > sold 6 at $10,000 each. The Chinese know more uses for Browns Gas
> than
> > anyone else in the world. This sould be cause for some concern.
> >
> > Do a search for Brown's Gas or Yull Brown, Dennis Lee, Better World
> > Technology to find out more. Be ready to forget most of what you
> learned
> > in
> > physics class when it comes to using Browns Gas in cutting and
> welding of
> > materials (makes sand into glass in seconds).
> >
> > http://www.brownsgas.com/brownsgashome.html
> >
> > http://www.savefuel.ca/oxy-hydrogen/
> >
> > Remember water is only HHO and it does burn/explode quite well.
> > Electrolysis
> > used to break it down requires the presence of conductive
> particulates in
> > the solution or it won't break down. The gas generator uses
> electrolytes
> > (salts) to do this.
> > Paul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tom ring" <taring@TARING.ORG>
> > To: < vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> >
> >
> > >I haven't commented in a year or so, but this one needs one.
> > >
> > > B as in B.
> > >
> > > S as in S.
> > >
> > > Very B and very S.
> > >
> > > As Scotty would say "I can nah change the laws of physics
> Captain!"
> > >
> > > tom
> > > K0TAR
> > >
> > > 85 Westy - Albert
> > >
> > > On 5 Dec 2007 at 6:19, Paul N. Oliver wrote:
> > >
> > >> Do a web search for "Browns Gas" I worked with Ural Brown before
> he
> > >> passed
> > >> away in 97 or 98 and we were getting 200+mpgs on tap water.
> > >>
> > >> To much "Government RED tape" to every get to market. Had 'bugs"
> to
> > still
> > >> work out. Look it up can send more info for all the others NUTS
> like
> > me
> > >> who
> > >> have powered motors on water (h2o)
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET>
> > >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:08 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Alternative Fuels - Salt Water
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hmmmm ... one would think that if salt water could be made into
> a
> > >> > viable
> > >> > fuel that the Navy would have latched onto it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > John Rodgers wrote:
> > >> >> With an oil crisis looming, cheap fuel would be nice. So how
> about
> > >> >> using
> > >> >> salt water for fuel.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> John Kanzius, a communications engineer, retired, was looking
> for a
> > >> >> cure
> > >> >> to cancer and stumbled on this. I have a video of this if
> anyone
> > would
> > >> >> care to post it on their website. It' probably not a new
> concept,
> > >> >> except
> > >> >> for me.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Anyone?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> John Rodgers
> > >> >> 88 GL Diver/.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > >> > 269.16.10 /1160 - Release Date: 11/29/2007 8:32 PM
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
> > > 85 Westphalia GL Albert
> > > 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
> > > taring@taring.org
> > >
> > > What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from
> realistic
> > > simulations
> > > involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can
> assume it
> > > will
> > > be pretty bad.
> > > - Dave Barry
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > 12/6/2007 10:11 AM
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx
> 85 Westphalia GL Albert
> 96 Jetta GL The Intimidator
> taring@taring.org
>
> What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory
> frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad.
> - Dave Barry
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> Crescent Beach, BC
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
http://subyjake.googlepages.com/
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