Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:33:33 -0500
Reply-To: Dave Creasy <mkcdc@VERIZON.NET>
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From: Dave Creasy <mkcdc@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: Does anyone have experience with these specific points? Was
Re: Vanagon vs Eurovan
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My experience with our 93 Euro (non-camper) is that I have not had any
difficulty parallel parking. I practically have found the 5 cylinder, five
speed very powerful and beyond excellent in the snow and ice. You really
don't know how well your car is going to perform until faced when others are
stuck. I do have some reservations about the lack of rain gutter. Nothing
to attach a rack to or catch rain when camping. When a tarp or screen or
tent is attached to a Vanagon, water is diverted into the gutter. Euros
haven't this advantage. We also have an 85 Westy. The heat and
air-conditioning are superior to the Westy. I have heard complains about the
lower rise in the Euro pop-top. I think when it all comes about, you win a
little, you loss a little. As for the mileage I get from 17 to 23 mpg in a
standard Euro 5 Cylinder. The cost of parts is a tough one. We haven't had
too many problems considering the age. They do have some body issues with
rust. And the back door has to be closed with out too much force or in the
wrong place or the body buckles and the paint cracks.
Hope this helps, Mary Creasy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kai Mei" <kai@NEWCLEAR.US>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: Does anyone have experience with these specific points? Was Re:
Vanagon vs Eurovan
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm sorry I titled my original post the way I did... I'm concerned
> about these five points...Not campers, not manual vs automatic, not
> offroad capability, While perhaps interesting discussion, they bear
> no relevance for my current decision making.
>
>
> Is a Eurovan much harder to park in tight spaces? I live in NYC,
> always, always parallel park.
>
> Is the MV Eurovan smaller in the interior than the 87 wolfie interior?
>
> Would I get better mileage with a Auto vanagon, or auto eurovan...
> assuming good tune, 50/50 city/hwy and conservative driving?
>
> Is a Eurovan still good for DIY repair, or do they have costly
> systems that are almost impossible to repair by an average shadetree
> mechanic?
>
> Do Eurovan's handle as well as vanagons?
>
> Cost of ownership of an Eurovan, much higher or lower than Vanagon?
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Chris S. wrote:
>
>> There's are two things missing in this comparison:
>>
>> 1) EVC - FWD, Vanagon Westy - RWD. I've seen Eurovan Campers get
>> "stuck" on a remotely wet uneven grassy surface. Vanagons are not
>> much better, but they are better than that.
>> 2) EVC - Automatic transmission ONLY. Vanagon - manual
>> transmission. For me and camping/driving in the mountains, or
>> just having fun on the back roads only a manual transmission will
>> do. I will not buy an automatic.
>>
>> Chris S.
>>
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