Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:05:43 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: An engine transplant: ? (subie alterntaive) long post.
In-Reply-To: <001401c7f22f$41085bc0$6fb2d8d1@dhanson>
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Fill your boots Don.
There are as many different Subie transplant outcomes as there are
transplanters. Lots of those guys have very little hot-rodding experience
and their results are about what you would expect.
There are also many successful and seamless conversions done that have
become reliable and powerful daily drivers.
I was going to send you a link to the Twin turbo Audi V8 with 6 speed
Tiptronic page but it seems to be down........
http://www.schornis.com/T3%20V8%204,2.htm
Dream on! :)
On 9/8/07, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote:
>
> I like messing around with my vehicles to make em work better for me.
>
> While I am pretty happy with my current 84 partial camper and it's
> transplanted 92 Cabriolet inline 4 motor, I keep looking. I've been
> lurking
> on the Subaru Yahoo list, toying with the idea of maybe doing a transplant
> project sometime. But the more I read over there, the less I like the way
> many of those projects seem to progress. Yes, when they are done and all
> the glitches are worked through, their owners are almost 'evangelistic'
> about their praise for their new motors. But, there seems to be an
> uncounted number of potential quagmires to fall into, judging from the
> posts
> over there.
>
> That conversion (in any of it's possible permutations) does not often seem
> to be anywhere near "plug-n-play", even when done by reputable specialty
> shops..There are waaay too many posts about "how do you make a diagnostic
> reader work on...." "What is the reason I get fault code_____?" "How do
> you
> defeat the_____" Where do you run the _____, on the EJ-xx motor, if you
> happen to have the other_____?" stuff like that. Or stories of in and out
> a
> bunch of times with the motor, or of cross country trips by flatbed, back
> to the shop to diagnose an odd-ball electrical glitch...Not very inviting
> to
> me, once I read a month of posts more carefully..
> Then, a week ago, someone posted a website for a shop that does 1.8l
> Turbo VW motor transplants into vanagons..for substantial money, but about
> the $ame as a complete Subie conversion would probably run you. So I
> started looking at those...~150 dependable HP from that motor, well proven
> as dependable and available cheap.."Hmmm," thinks I..
> I also have some buddies who've had very good luck supercharging their
> Porsche waterpumper V8s . Recently, at a dyno day, I saw a VW Rabbit with
> a
> SC pulling 340Hp once...So I found this site below, with a full SC kit for
> my Digifant II motor that I already have..Perhaps this is another way to
> 'upgrade' the power of a Vanagon. Same basic motor as the VW 1.8L turbo.
> But with the twin screw SC, no need to change much in the EMS, no turbo
> lag,
> about the same power output and just $3100, according to the website
> below.
> Superchargers have been used successfully for a long time...since the
> '30s..And the 1.8 liter block and head can take the stress, since they go
> a
> couple of hundred thou with a turbo at 150hp..Not much more complex than
> adding an air conditioning system..compressor, belts, ducting, maybe a
> wastegate, maybe a knock sensor system..etc etc..
> It would be nice to have the ability to take advantage of a break in
> oncoming traffic to pass slow vehicles, without having to wait for the
> break
> to coincide with a downhill...It would be nice to go uphill at altitude
> with
> authority, or to have the capacity to tow a small trailer or to not worry
> about stacking too many toys on the roof..
> Just an idea..Ok you nay sayers..have at it..
>
>
> http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/BBM_Supercharger_Kits/BBM_Supercharger_Kit__Lysholm__MkII_1_8L_Digifant_II.html
>
> Don Hanson
>
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Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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